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    I just read an article on cnnmoney (sorry can't link from my phone) that talks about this. While 3/4 of stem majors may go outside of stem for actual employment they also tend to earn more in those jobs than non-stem majors. Also, the CEOs of Amazon Microsoft and Google are all stem majors, but ceo is considered a non stem position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexPKeaton View Post
    One thing that stands out to me is what each study considers STEM. Some consider "medical assistant" is STEM. I personally do not. BTW there are 100k grads in the MA field and only 75k jobs.
    Not surprising. MA is probably the most common for-profit scam program.

    As for this argument as a whole...

    Lumping all STEM together and claiming there is or isn't a shortage is asinine. A shortage in one area, does not preclude an excess in another, professionally or geographically. Or vice versa. And of course, as has already been pointed out, lots of people with degree X are employed in field Y, which has precisely jack to do with field X. That is not unique to STEM degrees. Far from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulu Bak View Post
    Not surprising. MA is probably the most common for-profit scam program.

    As for this argument as a whole...

    Lumping all STEM together and claiming there is or isn't a shortage is asinine. A shortage in one area, does not preclude an excess in another, professionally or geographically. Or vice versa. And of course, as has already been pointed out, lots of people with degree X are employed in field Y, which has precisely jack to do with field X. That is not unique to STEM degrees. Far from it.
    Well there's a push to structure the K12 curriculum around STEM (at the expense of other subjects/areas) to fulfill said shortage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFin View Post
    Well, I'm a civil engineer, and we really don't need more civil engineers; We need more money to build the projects. We have plans sitting on the shelves awaiting funding. Plus, there's not a ton of new highways/infrastructure being built in this country, it's just reconstruction and enhancing the ones we have.
    The evil gubmint would have to tax and spend for that to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForWhoForWhat? View Post
    Well there's a push to structure the K12 curriculum around STEM (at the expense of other subjects/areas) to fulfill said shortage.
    I doubt that will do much to address any shortages, but I don't think emphasizing those skill groups is necessarily a bad thing. The biggest concern I'd have with that, and I suspect most college professors would share this concern, is writing. It's astounding how many people can't write worth a damn.

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