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    A cool Beatles song fact...(and most songs in general)

    Out of the 99 songs the Beatles did up through 1965 (every track from their first 6 albums and the 16 singles collected on Past Masters), only FOUR of them eclipsed 3:00 in duration:

    You Won't See Me (3:19)
    Ticket To Ride (3:09)
    She's A Woman (3:02)
    You Really Got A Hold On Me (3:01, cover)

    This is pretty outstanding. It was also a reflection of songs back then:

    Average Pop Song Length By Decade*

    1. 2010's: 4'26"
    2. 1990's: 4'14"
    3. 2000's: 4'10"
    4. 1980's: 4'08"
    5. 1970's: 3'55"
    6. 1960's: 2'59"
    7. 1940's: 2'41"
    8. 1950's: 2'36"
    http://thelister.blogspot.com/2011/0...by-decade.html

    Any good ideas as to why this is? Are we just repeating parts of the song to make them longer? Did radio stations save money by playing less songs in a time span? Did it save room on the records used to play music at the time?

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    I imagine there's a few reasons for the standard 3 minute song, but one reason is.............that's as long as radio stations wanted them/allowed them to be. Going as far to say they wouldn't play songs longer than 3 minutes. That lasted well into the 60s.
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    Wonder if it had to do with how much music would fit on a 45 record back in the day. Don't think anyone has cared about that since the 70/80s.
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    Rush sure as heck didn't care. ..
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    The jam band and album cuts abruptly changed radio in the late sixties. In the early sixties "albums" were just collections of singles and filler. The Beatles were one of the first bands to have single length stuff without a bunch of clunkers filling out the album. People really bought singles back then too.

    Stations like WBCN in Boston started playing album cuts as bands started making more interesting albums and some album cuts became singles based on radio play, which never happened before. there used to be "B" sides that became hits instead of "A" sides, but one single and a bunch of covers was the norm for early 33.3 length records.

    Single records were also in jukeboxes, which were everywhere and controlled by the mob. And radio stations, before album FM, dictated the length. Too big, wouldn't play, no single.
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    Hendrix's Purple Haze is a song that was supposedly famously cut down , by who I forgot, but legend has it that whoever it was. Knew instantly that it was a hit, but due to its original length would never get played on the radio. So it was cut down to fit the 3 minute format and the rest was lost/disregarded/sumpthin.

    Or so legend has it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breed View Post
    Hendrix's Purple Haze is a song that was supposedly famously cut down , by who I forgot, but legend has it that whoever it was. Knew instantly that it was a hit, but due to its original length would never get played on the radio. So it was cut down to fit the 3 minute format and the rest was lost/disregarded/sumpthin.

    Or so legend has it.
    That was a pretty common practice. Lots of late sixties songs have multiple versions for that reason.

    Bag of Gobstoppers for whoever gets this.

    Hey Jude was the Beatles biggest commercial success and ran over 7 minutes.

    What song, released earlier the same year, was the only previous 7 minute plus record to have hit the top of the charts (#2), influencing the Beatles decision to go with the 7 minute version?
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    Stumped me.
    The world is a toll-free toilet
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    We're in a state of mental diarrhea
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    Or in a state of constipated notions
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    Sh*tty memories and constipated 19 now-nows
    Emerges from the hiney of your head the doo doo chasers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breed View Post
    Stumped me.
    I love it, it caught a lot of crap for some reason. Jim Webb remembers watching a birthday party and other things with a girlfriend now broken up with.



    To Dave Barry and the other shrill dipsticks - It's a metaphor, baby. Look it up.
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    My guess was American Pie, but it turns out to have been released in 1971.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayClay View Post
    I love it, it caught a lot of crap for some reason. Jim Webb remembers watching a birthday party and other things with a girlfriend now broken up with.



    To Dave Barry and the other shrill dipsticks - It's a metaphor, baby. Look it up.
    Heh. Good grief. You may have the greatest trivia question of all time right there.
    The world is a toll-free toilet
    Our mouths neurological ass0s
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    Or in a state of constipated notions
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    Sh*tty memories and constipated 19 now-nows
    Emerges from the hiney of your head the doo doo chasers
    The Promentalsh*tbackwashpsychosisenemasquad
    Bringing you music to get your sh*t together by

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