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    Quote Originally Posted by AndromedaPatFan View Post
    Just a reminder -- not everything awful and dirty should or can be illegal. E.g. Rush Limbaugh.

    Nobody should dispute that the Koch Brothers are evil dishonest selfish scum. What's up for debate is what legally to do about it.
    There have been stories about them, but that's not the point to me. Unlimited money in the political system is.
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    Good article on the influx of big money into the Republican side of the primaries. One apparent side effect of CU is that the Tea Party, which as we've shown is well financed by big money donors, is attacking the center of the GOP in the Primaries, while the Dems are saving their cash for the General election.


    An unexpected legacy of Citizens United: More money to finance GOP’s intraparty war

    The jabs at Mitch McConnell have been coming on the air and in the mail, accusing the Senate Republican leader of helping President Obama and letting down Kentucky voters.

    The attacks are not the work of McConnell’s conservative primary challenger. Instead, they are coming from independent groups that want to unseat him and are benefitting from a new system of unlimited contributions ushered in by the Supreme Court in its 2010 Citizens United v. FEC ruling.

    Conservatives cheered that decision, described at the time by McConnell as a “First Amendment triumph.” But, as McConnell’s experience now illustrates, the loosened rules are causing political headaches for the GOP — allowing tea party groups to bring more financial firepower to challenges against Republican incumbents.

    Now, party leaders struggling to unify the warring wings in time to retake the Senate this year and lay a foundation for the 2016 presidential race are instead contending with a well-financed insurgency.

    Republicans are now far more likely than Democrats to field attacks by independent groups in their primaries. In 2012, super PACs and nonprofit groups reported spending nearly $36 million in GOP congressional primaries, compared with less than $10 million in congressional Democratic primaries, according to a Washington Post analysis of campaign finance records.

    A similar dynamic played out in the 2012 Republican presidential primaries, when the contenders were pummeled by super PACs aligned with their rivals. This year, the attacks by the GOP’s tea party flank are spurring a financial arms race, as major *center-right groups and business organizations step forward to bolster incumbents — an indication that the 2014 primary battles could be bloodier than past cycles.

    “Right now, the Republicans all have their cannons aimed at each other,” said Katon Dawson, a former South Carolina GOP chairman who is heading a new group, the West Main Street Values PAC, to help Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) fend off challenges from four primary opponents, “and the Democrats are getting a free ride.”

    The 2014 battle lines are being drawn by powerhouses such as the Club for Growth, which launched a “Primary My Congressman” effort last year to take on centrist Republicans. The organization is already backing challengers to eight-term Rep. Mike Simpson (Idaho) and Sen. Thad Cochran (Miss.) and may engage in more primaries.
    The graphic tells the story pretty well.


    Bottom line... the Tea Party may feel like grass roots to some of its members, but its an inconsequential footnote in history without the massive campaign donors such as Club for Growth, Freedomworks, AFP and Heritage Foundation. Club for Growth specifically was founded by NYC Money Managers who oppose taxes on the rich.
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    Oh, look, a lib fest has broken out. Throw some chum and here the cum.
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    Who would you want to count as an oligarch? I’d definitely vote for any billionaires who underwrite campaigns against environmental regulation while their company shows up as No. 14 on the list of Toxic 100 Air Polluters. We’re looking at you, Kochs. (Thank you for the information, Political Economy Research Institute, University of Massachusetts.)
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/06/op...ar-babies.html

    Sheldon Adelson? You remember Sheldon Adelson. He’s the billionaire casino owner who’s currently funding a campaign to combat online gambling. Adelson claims he’s propelled by a “moral standard,” which apparently involves saving betters from losing money in any venue that does not involve going to a casino. But we will always remember him as the guy who invested more than $16 million in the presidential prospects of Newt Gingrich.
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    Was just reading an article this morning that the Dems are getting killed on Obamacare ads, so they're going after the Koch brothers in an attempt to distract voters. Interesting strategy, I guess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vin Lombardi View Post
    Was just reading an article this morning that the Dems are getting killed on Obamacare ads, so they're going after the Koch brothers in an attempt to distract voters. Interesting strategy, I guess...
    Creepy Uncle Sam ads ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vin Lombardi View Post
    Was just reading an article this morning that the Dems are getting killed on Obamacare ads, so they're going after the Koch brothers in an attempt to distract voters. Interesting strategy, I guess...
    Yep. "As long as they lie about us, we'll tell the truth about them." That's been the Democrat motto since Adlai Stevenson. Sometimes it works; sometimes -- as one might note by my invocation of Stevenson -- it doesn't.
    APF doesn't come in screaming at others about how stupid they are. APF doesn't spam NST with the same tired topic 30 times a month. APF doesn't link to some kook in his mom's basement telling you how to, "Be afraid. Be very afraid" of the world falling down around you. And, when APF is proven wrong, he acknowledges he made a mistake and moves on, rather than harping about "sheeple."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndromedaPatFan View Post
    Yep. "As long as they lie about us, we'll tell the truth about them." That's been the Democrat motto since Adlai Stevenson. Sometimes it works; sometimes -- as one might note by my invocation of Stevenson -- it doesn't.
    Democrats have an interesting version of what a lie is. As in, its usually rather truthful, it's just something they don't want the public to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Q View Post
    Democrats have an interesting version of what a lie is. As in, its usually rather truthful, it's just something they don't want the public to know.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...39c_story.html
    APF doesn't come in screaming at others about how stupid they are. APF doesn't spam NST with the same tired topic 30 times a month. APF doesn't link to some kook in his mom's basement telling you how to, "Be afraid. Be very afraid" of the world falling down around you. And, when APF is proven wrong, he acknowledges he made a mistake and moves on, rather than harping about "sheeple."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vin Lombardi View Post
    Was just reading an article this morning that the Dems are getting killed on Obamacare ads, so they're going after the Koch brothers in an attempt to distract voters. Interesting strategy, I guess...
    Maybe they're going after the Koch brothers because the ads are patently dishonest?
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    US government has purchased 30,000 guillotines.

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