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    I've got to boast a bit about the Chris Paul Fraud

    - I told yall that NO should've taken Bledsoe instead of trying to be greedy and get Gordon, Bledsoe and the pick (which was never going to happen).

    - They should've left Gordon, they could've gotten a better player than Rivers with the Minny pick and not had to trade Noel for Jrue Holiday.

    they'd be looking at

    Bledsoe
    Jeremy Lamb
    Idk who their SF is, who cares, is this Evans?
    Brow
    Noel

    Ryan Anderson off the bench.

    that's a really solid building block. PLUS they'd have their 1st round in 2014 to add another key player (or trade to get a 3 and D SF which is what this team would need.

    they'd be in MUCH better shape than they are now.

    Plus they'd have mondo cap room.

    Maybe they would've still wasted that money on Evans, but they'd still be much better off than their current situation.
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    Clips didn't seem willing to give up Bledsoe, but I would have tried to demand him as well. Clips were 3 deep at the PG spot when the trade went down.
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    The Clips were not giving up all 3. Hell asking for 2 if you wanted Gordon was far too much IMO.
    Mac9, to the true warrior. the ultimate competitor and the most worth adversary any athlete has ever faced off against. He was an inspiration for both his on the field play, off the field contributions and his leadership. The world is now a worse place without him.

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    I'd rather have Gordon than Bledsoe.

    Its been 9 games for Bledsoe. His numbers by the end of the season won't look anywhere close to where they do now.

    And Q you really aren't argueing apples to oranges here. If they take Bledsoe over Gordan, they still draft Rivers instead of Lamb IMO and also pass on Noel. Noel fell to them and they passed for a reason IMO. The fact that they just announced Noel is going to miss the entire year leads me to believe that knee is a lot worse off than we know about and he probably was removed from a lot of teams entire draft board the way teams jumped out of the way of him.
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    But you also have to factor in what they gave up to get Holliday since you don't have a PG.

    I'd rather have Bledose, and Noel AND my 2014 1st round pick than just Gordon.
    Mac9, to the true warrior. the ultimate competitor and the most worth adversary any athlete has ever faced off against. He was an inspiration for both his on the field play, off the field contributions and his leadership. The world is now a worse place without him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Q View Post
    I'd rather have Bledose, and Noel AND my 2014 1st round pick than just Gordon.
    Its not just Gordan. Its Gordan and Holiday.

    And Noel is such a BIG question mark. He never was a legit #1 overall pick type of talent to begin with as he has no offensive game. With the knee injury, as you can see by the way the draft unfolded, a lot of GM's decided he they type of pick that could ruin a career. He was a defensive specialist that relied on his athleticism in the midst of an injury that might take a lot of that athleticism away. Its a scary pick to take especially if you know that your job might rely on the perfromance of the team this coming season and he wasn't going to be around to help out.

    The only way that move you are talking about pays off is if the Pelican's would have got a top 3-5 pick with that lineup you would have been running out there. But that team certainly looks like a team that could have done that.

    But all that gets into how being a GM in sports often times cuts both ways. A lot of times the best thing to do in the long term interest of the team is often times the one thing that will you fired. As a GM ,do you make the move that might set your team up the best long term knowing that it also likely gets you fired? I sure as hell wouldn't. I try to figure it out and keep my job.
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    Well considering they wouldn't have Noel for this year? Absolutely.

    And if you can slide Parker or Wiggins into that open 3 slot, it's game over.
    Mac9, to the true warrior. the ultimate competitor and the most worth adversary any athlete has ever faced off against. He was an inspiration for both his on the field play, off the field contributions and his leadership. The world is now a worse place without him.

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    it doens't have to be Noel either.

    Who says NO would've taken Noel if they had Bledsoe and decided to keep the pick. It could've also easily been B-Mac.

    Either one is worth it compared to Gordon's big deal. Your defense would be ridonkulous with Noel and Davis there.
    Mac9, to the true warrior. the ultimate competitor and the most worth adversary any athlete has ever faced off against. He was an inspiration for both his on the field play, off the field contributions and his leadership. The world is now a worse place without him.

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    It's hard to say that everything would've played out the same if something that significant had changed two years ago. Would Bledsoe look as good as he does now without being Paul's understudy for two years? Would the Hornets still have had the #1 pick they used on Anthony Davis if they had Bledsoe for a full season instead of Gordon for 9 games?

    I'm definitely with you on how crazy it was to trade Noel and the 2014 pick for Holiday, though. There are so many teams with tradeable assets that would part with them for just one first-rounder. Goran Dragic comes to mind immediately.

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    League owned team

    sinking

    finds owner it desperately needed at the last minute

    scores #1 overall pick only months later?


    you're not that naive.


    do the math homey. They were getting the Brow no matter what.
    Mac9, to the true warrior. the ultimate competitor and the most worth adversary any athlete has ever faced off against. He was an inspiration for both his on the field play, off the field contributions and his leadership. The world is now a worse place without him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeminiV View Post
    It's hard to say that everything would've played out the same if something that significant had changed two years ago. Would Bledsoe look as good as he does now without being Paul's understudy for two years? Would the Hornets still have had the #1 pick they used on Anthony Davis if they had Bledsoe for a full season instead of Gordon for 9 games?

    I'm definitely with you on how crazy it was to trade Noel and the 2014 pick for Holiday, though. There are so many teams with tradeable assets that would part with them for just one first-rounder. Goran Dragic comes to mind immediately.
    Or Bledsoe? lol

    It might've had to be a 3 team trade but they could've used that pick to get Bledsoe and still kept Block City (and my newest most awesome financial asset) in tact.
    Mac9, to the true warrior. the ultimate competitor and the most worth adversary any athlete has ever faced off against. He was an inspiration for both his on the field play, off the field contributions and his leadership. The world is now a worse place without him.

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