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    Second Amendment remedies coming soon?

    http://www.fdu.edu/newspubs/publicmi...trol/final.pdf

    29% of Americans polled say that armed revolution may soon be needed to "protect liberties".
    44% of Republicans said yes.

    38% of those folks supported additional gun control legislation anyway.

    I imagine the "yes" figures are a little high due to the phrasing of the poll question.
    APF doesn't come in screaming at others about how stupid they are. APF doesn't spam NST with the same tired topic 30 times a month. APF doesn't link to some kook in his mom's basement telling you how to, "Be afraid. Be very afraid" of the world falling down around you. And, when APF is proven wrong, he acknowledges he made a mistake and moves on, rather than harping about "sheeple."

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    I'm in. But I get to be the one to scream WOOOOOOLLLLLLLVVVVVVVVEEEEERRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIII INNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndromedaPatFan View Post
    29% of Americans polled say that armed revolution may soon be needed to "protect liberties".
    I would like to say that this percentage is suprisingly high, but I am honestly not surprised that nearly 1/3 people think this, only saddened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fandango View Post
    I would like to say that this percentage is suprisingly high, but I am honestly not surprised that nearly 1/3 people think this, only saddened.
    Doesn't surprise me in the least. If you would ask them what PERSONAL liberties they have had taken away, however, they would draw a blank while demanding that Tamerlin be denied his civil rights and be treated as an enemy combatant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyerhawk View Post
    Doesn't surprise me in the least. If you would ask them what PERSONAL liberties they have had taken away, however, they would draw a blank while demanding that Tamerlin be denied his civil rights and be treated as an enemy combatant.
    Point of technicality -- Tamerlan is the dead one, not the temporarily unmirandized survivor ...
    APF doesn't come in screaming at others about how stupid they are. APF doesn't spam NST with the same tired topic 30 times a month. APF doesn't link to some kook in his mom's basement telling you how to, "Be afraid. Be very afraid" of the world falling down around you. And, when APF is proven wrong, he acknowledges he made a mistake and moves on, rather than harping about "sheeple."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndromedaPatFan View Post
    Point of technicality -- Tamerlan is the dead one, not the temporarily unmirandized survivor ...
    Oh right. It's early. I actually thought that was the last name but of course that is Tsarnaev.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndromedaPatFan View Post
    http://www.fdu.edu/newspubs/publicmi...trol/final.pdf

    29% of Americans polled say that armed revolution may soon be needed to "protect liberties".
    44% of Republicans said yes.

    38% of those folks supported additional gun control legislation anyway.

    I imagine the "yes" figures are a little high due to the phrasing of the poll question.
    The 29% percent is quite scary and, yes, very sad.

    Of course it's less about the need to protect liberties and mostly about the need to protect gun ownership but why quibble over the details.

    Another reason the Founding Father reject a direct democracy model.

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    What's so scary about this country still having some freedom-loving men with a set of balls?

    Also please do read up on why the Founding Fathers rejected a direct democratic system. It had everything to do with protecting citizens from the tyranny of the majority.

    i.e. if a majority of US citizens got brainwashed by media oversensationalizing shootings and gun incidents and presidents fake crying on TV. They might vote to nerf the 2nd amendment.

    The majority is not only capable of being wrong, it's often wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThankGod4Walsh View Post
    What's so scary about this country still having some freedom-loving men with a set of balls?
    Did you get a semi typing that?
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    Thankfully there's a 2nd amendment remedy that can help cull this stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThankGod4Walsh View Post
    What's so scary about this country still having some freedom-loving men with a set of balls?

    Also please do read up on why the Founding Fathers rejected a direct democratic system. It had everything to do with protecting citizens from the tyranny of the majority.

    i.e. if a majority of US citizens got brainwashed by media oversensationalizing shootings and gun incidents and presidents fake crying on TV. They might vote to nerf the 2nd amendment.

    The majority is not only capable of being wrong, it's often wrong.
    Still seems like the fight for the 2nd admendment is much less about protecting the country against the tyranny of the majority then just the right to own the guns.
    It's all those other admendments that have done the better job of protecting against the tyranny of the majority then the 2nd amendment ever has. It seems to be an amendment for faux patriots imho.

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