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  • WR Tavon Austin

    2 7.41%
  • DL Star Lotulelei

    5 18.52%
  • DE/LB Dion Jordan

    9 33.33%
  • DE/LB Ziggy Ansah

    8 29.63%
  • DE/LB Barkevious Mingo

    0 0%
  • Other - specify - NOT TRADE DOWN!

    3 11.11%
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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iggloo View Post
    Chance Warmack?
    Got my vote, with Jarvis Jones a close second. With Richardson in the fold, commit to the power running game. Jones played a 3-4 in college and pressured the QB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McGruffHawk View Post
    Can never have too many pass rushers . . . Move Kruger to DE on obvious passing downs and use Jordan as a specialist like Aldon Smith.
    If they had no other holes, I wouldn't mind them having a surplus of pass rushers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastradamus View Post
    If they had no other holes, I wouldn't mind them having a surplus of pass rushers.
    That would be a more convincing argument if you didn't vote for a slot WR @ #6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducky View Post
    Drafting a slot specialist who is almost certainly going to be too small to line up on the outside in a 2 WR set for a team with Trent Richardson in the fold would be such a wasted pick that high IMO. You just can't make a pick of a guy who will only play at most 60% of the offensive snaps with the 6th overall. Its like taking a punter in the 2nd round.

    ....and Krueger and Sheard have WAY too many questions about them (Sheard transitioning to new position and Krueger transitioning to actually playing all the time) to think that position is addressed adequately IMO.
    I disagree strongly with both of these points. First, I certainly don't think AUstin is near as limited as you make him ou to be. I see him in the mold of Desean Jackson,Mike Wallace,Antonio Brown or Percy Harvin. He will definitely play a lot of slot, but also line up outside and be a deep threat as well as return punts. I think he's exactly the type of weapon they need to make things easier on Weeden and Richardson both.

    Now, I'm in no way, shape or form going to sit here and say that Kruger and Sheard make the position addressed. I get the question marks. However, to spend 8 million dollars per year on a guy only to draft a guy at his position at # 6 overall and say you don't believe in him, that would be monumentally stupid IMO. Whether the position truly is addressed or not, they clearly made that move believing it was. Sheard's position won't be that different. Most ROLBs in a 3-4 rush the passer pretty similarly to a 4-3 RDE. SHeard's no All Pro, but he's far down the list if you are going to start replacing guys. Its not like JOrdan is far and away BPA or something either
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoViking View Post
    Patterson. Call it a reach, don't care, they need playmakers on offense and he is that. There isn't much of anything that can be called a reach this year.
    Yah, a guy with Julio Jones' size and speed and Harvin's ability with the ball in his hand seems like just what the doctor ordered. He's raw in his route running and he's a body catcher, but you can figure out a way to get him the ball so he can make big plays for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulu Bak View Post
    Everyone needs play makers, you can never have enough, but I don't think the Browns need a #1 WR (Gordon) or a #2 WR (Little). I think they desperately need a QB, and Campbell does absolutely nothing to change that, but apparently, the front office disagrees. I think RG and TE are major needs as well. I think they need a go-to guy for key third downs, and in terms of a play maker, could really use an elusive YAC slot WR or receiving RB.

    In other words, I bon't think Patterson would make much sense, especially not for a team in the AFCN.
    That's more like a 2 and a 4 if you ask me. Maybe a 2 and 3. I would have voted Patterson if he was an option. Voting other is stupid to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulu Bak View Post
    I'm not saying he wouldn't be an upgrade, or fill a need, I just don't think you can justify using the 6th overall pick to fill that need with him. I especially don't like the idea of taking a WR that high considering the WR talent that should be there in the third, and possibly even the 4th.

    With only one pick in the first two rounds, I'd be very surprised to see them go WR, even in a trade down situation. Five WRs on the roster, all in their 2nd or 3rd year. If they take a WR, I think it has to be someone that could also replace Cribbs.
    I think you could just as easily say that guys like Carradine and Lemonier will be there in the 2nd and aren't a huge drop off either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastradamus View Post
    I think you could just as easily say that guys like Carradine and Lemonier will be there in the 2nd and aren't a huge drop off either.
    The Browns don't have a 2nd round pick. Hopefully, if the draft falls like this, someone will be looking to move up a few spots to land Lane Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulu Bak View Post
    The Browns don't have a 2nd round pick. Hopefully, if the draft falls like this, someone will be looking to move up a few spots to land Lane Johnson.
    Ok. I did forget that and realize you said WR in the 3rd or 4th,but I can't say I really agree. The Browns need a real impact WR if you ask me. Gordon is nice, but they have a ways to go.
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    Another vote for Patterson. I'm a big fan of his and think he could really help the Browns O next season.

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    To clarify, I'm not completely apposed to Patterson, I just don't like the idea of taking him at six.

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    I just don't feel there is anyone who is of significantly higher value myself. Its often been said that 5 and 25 aren't all that different in this draft.
    Last edited by Nastradamus; 03-31-2013 at 03:23 PM.
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