Butler was a 5 when they lost to duke and I believe an 8 when they lost to Uconn.
VCU was an 11 that beat Kansas (who's really surprised by that at this point?) and went from the first 4 to the Final Four.
I'd say 85 Villanova is a cinderella as a 9 seed winning it all. But the no shot clock era is a completely different game.
Personally, I think they should extend the college 3 all the way back to the NBA 3, but that would hurt the Cinderellas even more, although it would probably improve the quality of the game.




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