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    The Bills have one of the worst, no-hope QB situations in NFL history. Their tackles suck. Their targets suck. Their entire defense sucks. If they take an OG at #8 overall, they might as well be relegated to Canada.

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    best player on the board might be Warmack at the #8.....that helps fill a must need and will help whoever is at QB and will help open holes for the running game.
    Warmack might be the best player in the Draft....

    I do hear what you guys are saying about drafting a G so high though....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasher View Post
    Kiper isn't wrong.
    Neither is McShay.

    The GMs don't draft QBs. Owners do.

    We've seen EVERY YEAR an owner - for good or bad - push for a QB to be drafted in round 1. Happened with Locker.
    Can we please stop talking about this awful pick?

    It's amazing he gets a free pass while Gabbert gets blasted.

    They both suck.
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    I don't agree that its an owner thing, most owners stay out of it. Not every owner is Jerry Jones. GMs know that they can't really win without a QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyndham View Post
    The Bills have one of the worst, no-hope QB situations in NFL history. Their tackles suck. Their targets suck. Their entire defense sucks. If they take an OG at #8 overall, they might as well be relegated to Canada.
    I don't necessarily think the Bills should take an OG at 8, but if they are getting their QB in the 2nd like the situation posed, I think it makes a lot more sense. We disagree on the importance of Gs vs OTs though. Shoot, they might take Nassib in the 1st, so if they get him plus Warmack/Cooper, its not such a bad value at all IMHO.

    edit - also their targets aren't that bad with Spiller and Johnson, though they do need more. Glenn looked really good at LT last year too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Q View Post
    Can we please stop talking about this awful pick?

    It's amazing he gets a free pass while Gabbert gets blasted.

    They both suck.
    I have no problem if you don't like Locker, but he has not been bad on the level of Gabbert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastradamus View Post
    I have no problem if you don't like Locker, but he has not been bad on the level of Gabbert.
    Compared to his peers he's far closer to Gabbert and Ponder than SuperCam or Kaepernick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Q View Post
    Compared to his peers he's far closer to Gabbert and Ponder than SuperCam or Kaepernick.
    Closer to Ponder than the other 2 is fair. To this point, he's been a Tyson Jackson type bust, not a Jamarcus Russell(or Blaine Gabbert) caliber bust. The Titans seem to be working on putting him in better position to succeed. This is definitely a make or break year for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastradamus View Post
    Closer to Ponder than the other 2 is fair. To this point, he's been a Tyson Jackson type bust, not a Jamarcus Russell(or Blaine Gabbert) caliber bust. The Titans seem to be working on putting him in better position to succeed. This is definitely a make or break year for him.
    That is a bizarrely good comparison for 2 totally opposite positions.

    both were over-drafted by a fair margin.

    Both haven't performed up to their draft slots.

    Both are on the verge of being done with the teams that drafted them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Q View Post
    That is a bizarrely good comparison for 2 totally opposite positions.

    both were over-drafted by a fair margin.

    Both haven't performed up to their draft slots.

    Both are on the verge of being done with the teams that drafted them.
    No doubt. Locker hasn't been bad enough to be given up on yet though. He gets this year IMO. Give him a few read option plays while your at it.
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    Locker's problem coming out of College was accuracy and that continues to be his problem. I'm not sure you can teach that at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LASam View Post
    Locker's problem coming out of College was accuracy and that continues to be his problem. I'm not sure you can teach that at this point.
    Kaepernick wasn't super accurate at Nevada, it's why he was deemed a project.

    That's the only reason I'm holding out hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Q View Post
    Kaepernick wasn't super accurate at Nevada, it's why he was deemed a project.

    That's the only reason I'm holding out hope.
    True, and they changed Kaps delivery somewhat to get there. Do they have a good QB Coach in Nashville to help with his delivery? He's got everything else if they can get the accuracy issue resolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LASam View Post
    Locker's problem coming out of College was accuracy and that continues to be his problem. I'm not sure you can teach that at this point.
    Didn't Locker play baseball? If he was more accurate he'd probably be a pitcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglesnut View Post
    Didn't Locker play baseball? If he was more accurate he'd probably be a pitcher.
    I think it's more than just accuracy (not a fan of that word being used broadly).

    Steve Sarkisian is the man who made Palmer, Leinart, Booty, Sanchez, and Locker college superstars. Even though he was WCo , both USC and Washington had a system where the no.1 read would be open within 3 steps or Boot and then it'd be a dump off to a FB/HB. Sarkisian QBs don't really do a 2nd read to their TE or WR. Because most NFL QBs will face faster defenses they'll have their no.1 read predicted and double covered and won't transition their footwork to hit the 2nd target fast enough.

    IF there was an arcade game where the QBs just had to throw balls into bins (like those Dr. Pepper competitions with fans) a NFL QB could probably hit 95% of all of their passes within 35 yards. The problem Locker has is more mental and muscle memory that hasn't conquered the old one.

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