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  1. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    I was a Graham guy when he was drafted BTW. But anytime a guy is drafted in the top half of round one and three years later he is only playing when other guys get injured, he's a busted draft pick. Yes, I hold first rounders to a higher standard. I also don't call 5.5 sacks a breakout year.


    Graham was our best DL last year and Raid would be the tallest midget in Oz. so what?
    Agree 100% on both points here.

    Being the best in a 4-12 season is not saying much, especially when the stats are not that impressive.

    I'm sorry, but a 1st rounder should be an 'immediate' contributor, and a stud starter by year 2, otherwise, your drafting/scouting dept is not doing their job. I am not for 'reaches' - i want solid players - and your high round picks should become this. When you are 3 years out.. whether it is for injuries or skillsets.. that's pretty much a bust. If it were a 3rd round player, maybe not so much. But the production didn't match up with the resources used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoo View Post
    Sign Winston and draft Warmack......just a thought
    Warmack is a certified stud who fills a need for the next ten years. I hate to use #4 on a G. In a perfect world, we trade down to around #8 and pick up a 3rd rounder.

    So many good options in round one but I think we def need a OT in either FA in early in the draft. The rest is pure D.
    Chip is the man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFL_Recruiter View Post
    I'm sorry, but a 1st rounder should be an 'immediate' contributor, and a stud starter by year 2, otherwise, your drafting/scouting dept is not doing their job.
    If Graham would have been healthy then I would agree with this, but the scouting department can't predict injury which has been the main reason for his lack of field time.

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    If we trade down to #8, Warmack may not still be there. Just sayin'. I think if we get either MIllner, Jordan, or Fisher (doubt Joeckel will be there), we're good. We should know by Wednesday, what our draft needs should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old duke View Post
    If we trade down to #8, Warmack may not still be there. Just sayin'. I think if we get either MIllner, Jordan, or Fisher (doubt Joeckel will be there), we're good. We should know by Wednesday, what our draft needs should be.
    God I hope so. Having no idea what he direction of his team is on offense or defense is killing me.
    Chip is the man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    God I hope so. Having no idea what he direction of his team is on offense or defense is killing me.

    Its gonna be very similar to what he did at Oregon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swat View Post
    Its gonna be very similar to what he did at Oregon.
    How you know that?
    "Girl was bout as nutty as squirel $h!t"- Uncle ruckas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swat View Post
    Its gonna be very similar to what he did at Oregon.
    How is that going to happen? At Oregon he did not have a salary cap.
    Nothing left to do but smile,smile,smile. Have a Grateful Day. :}

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFspeedboy View Post
    How you know that?
    Educated guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    God I hope so. Having no idea what he direction of his team is on offense or defense is killing me.
    We will run the ball a lot.


    "Me against the world? So what…Im Brian Dawkins
    versus the whole 0 and 16 Lions offense
    So bring on the Giants Falcons and Miami Dolphins…"

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    Quote Originally Posted by swat View Post
    Educated guess?
    i hope the guess they go with is not educated on yours

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