i think they also need to properly scope their goal. Is it to reduce gun violence in general or it to reduce/minimize instances like sandy hook / columbine / etc...?
...because i think they really are two different issues with different causes.
They want to use it to push through gun control regardless of whether or not it has a tangible affect on minimizing these type of tragedies. I think that's obvious don't you?
Ok. Just checking. Yes they are absolutely looking for ways to control guns. The idea that since the country has been flooded with guns over the past 20 years due to misguided groups, doesn't mean we need to throw our arms up Raid is right. In the 50's no one thought tobacco use would be like it is today. In the 1800's gun use was widespread and that was changed. There are short and long term goals worth pursuing.
Agreed. But that doesn't mean that a realistic outlook on what needs to be done should be used as a get out of jail free card for anyone trying to use this tragedy as a means to further their political agenda. We need to start somewhere. How about we start with things that would really make a difference and leave the politics behind?
People want guns under control because ultimately the current state of guns in America makes the US a less safe place to live.
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I think they also need to properly scope their goal. Is it to reduce gun violence in general or it to reduce/minimize instances like Sandy Hook / Columbine / etc...?
...because I think they really are two different issues with different causes.
I think they are two different issues also. People are always going to shoot each other. Somehow I'd like to see if they can reduce the workplace/school mass shootings.
Ok. Just checking. Yes they are absolutely looking for ways to control guns. The idea that since the country has been flooded with guns over the past 20 years due to misguided groups, doesn't mean we need to throw our arms up Raid is right. In the 50's no one thought tobacco use would be like it is today. In the 1800's gun use was widespread and that was changed. There are short and long term goals worth pursuing.
People want guns under control because ultimately the current state of guns in America makes the US a less safe place to live.
Actually our violent crime rates and overall homicide rates are near all-time lows.
Why are liberals all worked up again, remind me?
The data point to a persistent perception gap among Americans. Despite strong evidence of crime dropping over recent decades, the public sees the reverse. "Recent Gallup polls have found that citizens overwhelmingly feel crime is going up even though it is not," says Professor Fox. "This is because of the growth of crime shows and the way that TV spotlights the emotional. One case of a random, horrific shooting shown repeatedly on TV has more visceral effect than all the statistics printed in a newspaper."
This... Unfortunately the gun lobbies and the NRA and the gun nuts are better at their job then the cigarette companies were.
After taking a few hits, they are back. The big tactic now is that "It (as in anything) won't do anything" except, surprise, more guns.
now they're attacking any type of additional background checks because "it won't do nothin." Unbelievable.
Originally Posted by the cryin lion
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