John Elway - Not NFL Exec of the Year

**jdlewis** · 02-09-2013, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Nastradamus

I didn't mean to come in and hate on Elway fwiw. I'm no troll or anything. Just throwing out a case for others I guess. He has made some big decisions, but if you are going to give him credit for Miller and the like, are you going back multiple years for other teams, like Seattle? I wouldn't have cried if Elway won, I think a case can be made. I think there's a case that he's not top 3 too.

Just pointing out that the body of work suggests that Elway has done a good job and it wasn't just a 1 year wonder revolving around bringing in Manning. Just the same as the Colts didn't win all those games just because they did the obvious and drafted Luck. Elway was a deserving candidate and I am ok he lost, because the other guy was deserving as well, just was bringing the body of Elway's work to the table so that any myth that this whole thing was just as simple as bringing in Manning and tada a winner... he's made a lot of tough good choices that not everyone is really aware of... all I was saying.

**primetime714** · 02-09-2013, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by jdlewis

Just pointing out that the body of work suggests that Elway has done a good job and it wasn't just a 1 year wonder revolving around bringing in Manning. Just the same as the Colts didn't win all those games just because they did the obvious and drafted Luck. Elway was a deserving candidate and I am ok he lost, because the other guy was deserving as well, just was bringing the body of Elway's work to the table so that any myth that this whole thing was just as simple as bringing in Manning and tada a winner... he's made a lot of tough good choices that not everyone is really aware of... all I was saying.

Yea I totally agree this was not just a one year thing. This is back to back great years of management. I mean in two years he's brought in MVP candidates on both sides of the ball to go along with a collection of young starters and inexpensive veteran role players. Pushing out the mistakes of the past regime while keeping all of the good parts. While he didn't win the award for this year, if it was a two year award he'd win in a landslide.

**Nastradamus** · 02-09-2013, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by jdlewis

Just pointing out that the body of work suggests that Elway has done a good job and it wasn't just a 1 year wonder revolving around bringing in Manning. Just the same as the Colts didn't win all those games just because they did the obvious and drafted Luck. Elway was a deserving candidate and I am ok he lost, because the other guy was deserving as well, just was bringing the body of Elway's work to the table so that any myth that this whole thing was just as simple as bringing in Manning and tada a winner... he's made a lot of tough good choices that not everyone is really aware of... all I was saying.

For sure, we're on the same page. I just didn't want to come to another team's board and sound like a dick

**SpringStein** · 02-09-2013, 02:46 AM

I didn't take it that way at all, Nas. You're are always welcome here. Frankly it's good to have some perspective outside our orange tinted glasses.

**Mingo** · 02-09-2013, 03:51 AM

Great discussion while I was gone - thanks guys - nice work especially by Springstein. Thanks to Nas for coming by and adding his well thought out opinions

**OrAnGe CrUsH 77** · 02-09-2013, 04:57 AM

I approve

**Broncogreg** · 02-09-2013, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by lucas707

John Elway is such a fixture in my life, going all the way back to my days as a kid here in NJ when nobody, and I mean nobody, else was a fan of the Denver Broncos ... I would get incensed watching the Sportswriters On TV television show ( remember that show ? ) back in the 80s and early 90s while they talked about the Broncos being better off trading him, or, the fact that he will never win the big game ...

So when I vent, he's sorta like an extended family member - I mean, Elway provided some of the most memorable times I spent watching games with my Mom and Dad as a kid - football has a way of bonding people, and the Broncos, and Elway specifically, did it with us big time ...

He'll win another one here - I thought it was going to be this year, but . . . . . .

He didn't deserve it this time ... Thank goodness for Manning, because without him here we'd be looking at a 29 or 30 y/o Brandon Weeden starting . . .

:)