President Obama:

**USAFspeedboy** · 02-02-2013, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Wounded Bear

I'm totally with you USAF. The dude f***ing sickens. What makes me even more ill is that the alternative in the last election was even worse.

And I'm with Cornel West, it too pisses me off that he used MLK's bible for the swearing in. He's not even in MLK's league.

200% agree, i tried to give him some leeway, but he doesnt seem to give a damn about any of the promises he made.

**USAFspeedboy** · 02-02-2013, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by RayClay

Flyer said

But if you read Speedy's post it largely objects to Obama from a very left wing perspective, which is consistent with his all his posts.

This is what broke my heart, you guys know i defended him through everything. But hes listening to niether left or right, poor or middle class. Hes solidly in the pocket of corperate america and war mongering idiots. And here he is about to get us into a conflict with syria and iran and thus russia, china and north korea. This administration blows chunks... I thought a democrat would be the 100% opposite... I was wrong.

**RayClay** · 02-02-2013, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by USAFspeedboy

This is what broke my heart, you guys know i defended him through everything. But hes listening to niether left or right, poor or middle class. Hes solidly in the pocket of corperate america and war mongering idiots. And here he is about to get us into a conflict with syria and iran and thus russia, china and north korea. This administration blows chunks... I thought a democrat would be the 100% opposite... I was wrong.

You were in the military, right? What did you think that involved when you signed up?

**flyerhawk** · 02-02-2013, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by USAFspeedboy

This is what broke my heart, you guys know i defended him through everything. But hes listening to niether left or right, poor or middle class. Hes solidly in the pocket of corperate america and war mongering idiots. And here he is about to get us into a conflict with syria and iran and thus russia, china and north korea. This administration blows chunks... I thought a democrat would be the 100% opposite... I was wrong.

Pulled us out of Iraq. We'll be out of Afghanistan within a year. And while you may THINK he is going to get into a war with Syria or Iran, that is simply your opinion.

The fact that you thought that a Democratic President would 100% opposite of a Republican President is probably the problem.

**USAFspeedboy** · 02-02-2013, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by flyerhawk

I'm not going to respond to Speedy's rant because it's mostly boiler plate right wing talking points. Seems like Speedy has decided to be a conservative since his return. Makes no difference to me.

Nah, man ive always been a slightly left leaning libertarian. Its just that the president has really been radical in his governship. Dude passed the patriot actII, ndaa and locked up more black and brown young people than ANY president in history.

Did you know, right noe, We have tje LARGEST prison population of any country in the history of governmental corrections or punishment.

There are over 7 million american in the corrections system.

The gulags at its peak had 2 million

Moa had a little over 1.5

Pol pot had a little over a million

And hitlers nazi germany at its peak was a little over a million.

Dude, this stinks to high hell!

**USAFspeedboy** · 02-02-2013, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by RayClay

You were in the military, right? What did you think that involved when you signed up?

Honestly? At first, three hots and a cot

After basic, they voluntold me to be a combat medic and my focus was on being productive and saving lives...

Why do you ask?

**RayClay** · 02-02-2013, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by USAFspeedboy

And here he is about to get us into a conflict with syria and iran and thus russia, china and north korea.

Do you have some evidence of this?

**Grimjack** · 02-02-2013, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by USAFspeedboy

This is what broke my heart, you guys know i defended him through everything. But hes listening to niether left or right, poor or middle class. Hes solidly in the pocket of corperate america and war mongering idiots. And here he is about to get us into a conflict with syria and iran and thus russia, china and north korea. This administration blows chunks... I thought a democrat would be the 100% opposite... I was wrong.

Russia, China and North Korea ? what is it 1950 all over again. There not going to go to war with the west.

**flyerhawk** · 02-02-2013, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by USAFspeedboy

Nah, man ive always been a slightly left leaning libertarian. Its just that the president has really been radical in his governship. Dude passed the patriot actII, ndaa and locked up more black and brown young people than ANY president in history.

I don't know if this is true or not but it's meaningless. Absolute numbers reflect population growth.

Obama didn't invent the criminal code or the war on drugs. And while you may wish he drastically changed either, that would have required a cooperative Congress assuming that this was something Obama focused on.

Did you know, right noe, We have tje LARGEST prison population of any country in the history of governmental corrections or punishment.

There are over 7 million american in the corrections system.

The gulags at its peak had 2 million

Moa had a little over 1.5

Pol pot had a little over a million

And hitlers nazi germany at its peak was a little over a million.

Dude, this stinks to high hell!

This has been true for decades although you really need to learn to focus more on percentages than total numbers. Cambodia had a population of roughly 10 million people at the time and yet they had a million folks in prison. Yeah, that's certainly worse than our situation.

**Grimjack** · 02-02-2013, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by flyerhawk

I don't know if this is true or not but it's meaningless. Absolute numbers reflect population growth.

Obama didn't invent the criminal code or the war on drugs. And while you may wish he drastically changed either, that would have required a cooperative Congress assuming that this was something Obama focused on.

This has been true for decades although you really need to learn to focus more on percentages than total numbers. Cambodia had a population of roughly 10 million people at the time and yet they had a million folks in prison. Yeah, that's certainly worse than our situation.

Cambodia ?

**Raid** · 02-02-2013, 05:01 PM

Obama keeping 'us' in Afghanistan for 6 years out of his 8 is pretty sad. The big dogs just love being called 'Commander In Chief'.

**flyerhawk** · 02-02-2013, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Grimjack

Cambodia ?

He referenced Pol Pot in an attempt to suggest that our prison population situation was worse than Cambodia.

**Grimjack** · 02-02-2013, 05:06 PM

That was sorta retorical in tha tI couldn't believe he'd compare the present day US with Pol Pots Cambodia.

**RayClay** · 02-02-2013, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by USAFspeedboy

Honestly? At first, three hots and a cot

After basic, they voluntold me to be a combat medic and my focus was on being productive and saving lives...

Why do you ask?

Well, the military wasn't set up to provide room and board, there is that defense and or war thing. You never considered that when you signed up?