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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack View Post
    Good grief. As if times havent changed
    Sure they've changed. But the REASONS people come - haven't. <shrug>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack View Post
    My dad was born in this country and was told to leave by to Old polish immigarnt couple on a trolley in Chicago because he was a jew. The store fronts had sighns No DOgs followed by No Jews. Spare me the ethnic handwringing

    We have come a long way since Rockridge
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyerhawk View Post
    Yup. Back then the nativists were much more open about their hostility towards immigrants.
    Your enlightment comes from your pockets. I bet theiers did too
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalgaryHawkFan View Post
    Are you calling me out as bigoted CHF ? Cause I'm nothing like that guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack View Post
    Are you calling me out as bigoted CHF ? Cause I'm nothing like that guy.
    Of course I'm not. I'm just pointing out that signs still exist. Now we HAVE progressed in that we don't see them in store windows, but the overall mindset still exists. We've just changed which groups we don't want let in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalgaryHawkFan View Post
    Of course I'm not. I'm just pointing out that signs still exist. Now we HAVE progressed in that we don't see them in store windows, but the overall mindset still exists. We've just changed which groups we don't want let in.
    Some poeple want them all thrown out. I don't agree. I also don't agree that we should just make it so anyone can come and stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack View Post
    Your enlightment comes from your pockets. I bet theiers did too
    Well certainly not living hand to mouth has enabled me to read up on such subjects and not respond viscerally to the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack View Post
    Some poeple want them all thrown out. I don't agree. I also don't agree that we should just make it so anyone can come and stay.
    Perfectly reasonable. Again, I see some solution as needing to come from

    a. making legal process easier
    b. prosecuting those who hire illegals.

    That would actually solve something and wouldn't be just an insanely expensive bandaid like building walls and minefields.

    I don't think open borders is a real solution either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalgaryHawkFan View Post
    Perfectly reasonable. Again, I see some solution as needing to come from

    a. making legal process easier
    b. prosecuting those who hire illegals.

    That would actually solve something and wouldn't be just an insanely expensive bandaid like building walls and minefields.

    I don't think open borders is a real solution either.
    Then we agree on all points....

    The only thing I would add is I would also like to tighten border security.
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    13 Then young women will dance and be glad, young men and old as well. I will turn their mourning into gladness; I will give them comfort and joy instead of sorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyerhawk View Post
    Well certainly not living hand to mouth has enabled me to read up on such subjects and not respond viscerally to the subject.
    Thankfully you can 'read about it" Millions are living it. Nose bleeds much ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack View Post
    Thankfully you can 'read about it" Millions are living it. Nose bleeds much ?
    Not in the least.
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    Not suprised in the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack View Post
    Not suprised in the least.
    Your smugness is noted.
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    Is that cake ?
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    Sort of. It tastes great at first but then you realize how empty it really is.
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