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  1. #46
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    I'm cool with that.
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    Alright, I'll do the friggin Giants.

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    I'm going to use these numbers for Canty, Bradshaw and Boley since they were cut by the Giants before I looked at the rotoworld contracts and after our rosters locked. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/n...0613?gt1=39002.

    Canty - 6.5m
    Bradhsaw - 4.25m
    Boley - 4m

    Also referenced here http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...aw__Canty.html
    Bradshaw, who has had knee and ankle injuries, was to earn $4.25 million. He became expendable with the play of rookie David Wilson. Canty, who had knee issues with the Giants after never missing a game with Dallas, was to earn $6.5 million next season. Boley, who had shoulder and hamstring injuries last season, was to make $4 million this season.

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    Thanks eagles. I know how hard that must be. Lol...

  5. #50
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    Questions from a Mock GM'ing Newbie:

    1.) Free agency is via a bidding process I assume?

    2.) The NFL cap is 121M, correct? There was some confusing text about cap carry over $$$...did John Clayton take that into account when he posted his team-by-team cap figures? The Raiders were 4.5M over the cap per Clayton, but today I saw that they had a 4.5M carryover?

    3.) How do we treat guaranteed $$$ when doing trades? Or do we ignore that? And the entire cap figure for 2013 is removed from the books? (same as we do with cutting guys in their final 2 years and saving 90%?)
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    1.) Bids. Each bid must be 10% higher per year than the previous bid. If a bid stands unchallenged for 24 hours, the player is signed by the highest bidder. Its crazy and can go on a LONG time.

    2.) We are going with Clayton's final cap cpace numbers, which include rolled over money. Here's the link . . . http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012...t-cap-strategy

    3.) Ignore all the fine print in trades. Its just too complex. I know for me, however, I do take that into account when trading someone, but I tend to try to keep things realistic. Others don't and that's fine too.

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    IIRC from past year's on trades, the trading team saves 90% of the base same as cuts, but the acquiring team has to take on the full amount of the base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McGruffHawk View Post

    3.) Ignore all the fine print in trades. Its just too complex. I know for me, however, I do take that into account when trading someone, but I tend to try to keep things realistic. Others don't and that's fine too.
    I am also trying to keep things realistic, but it's exciting pretending to be McKenize... the Raiders have SERIOUS SERIOUS problems...wow...kinda fun being a GM of a bad team.

    ===============

    OK, everybody....

    The Raiders now don't have much of a OL, DL, CB....and a punter/kicker!!!!

    Dunno how I will fill in the holes..and it looks like I need draft picks more than anything else...

    Willing to trade Heyward-Bey, Tommy Kelly (would need more as he fills in a need right now), and would entertain discussions for guys like Macfadden/Huff....it's a full rebuild mode...

    I am gonna be surprised if the real Raiders win more than 5 games next year...
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  9. #54
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    Hey eagles...

    I found someone to take the Giants if you would like to relinquish them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog View Post
    IIRC from past year's on trades, the trading team saves 90% of the base same as cuts, but the acquiring team has to take on the full amount of the base.
    I don't remember doing it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGruffHawk View Post
    1.) Bids. Each bid must be 10% higher per year than the previous bid. If a bid stands unchallenged for 24 hours, the player is signed by the highest bidder. Its crazy and can go on a LONG time.
    To clarify, we stopped doing multi-year deals a couple years ago because the extra work it creates doesn't enhance the experience. All FA offers are for 1 year here. Keeps all the math more simple and the bidding process more smooth.

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    That is correct. The team acquiring the player takes on the full base salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troyheisman10 View Post
    Hey eagles...

    I found someone to take the Giants if you would like to relinquish them.
    Thanks, but I'll keep them as we discussed in PM.

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    Can we trade draft picks during the draft?? Or will there be a deadline to trade up/down before the draft starts??
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    We are normally able to trade during the draft.

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