I never really thought Kaep would be very good, so I can't talk much. Still not sure what to think. He has a big arm but no touch. The one he threw to the left sideline that had zero arch on it was a good example of his passing issues and should have been picked.
As long as they can run the read option he should be good but his mechanics still suck.
Ponder was just a stupid pick because he was never even good in college and had his arm screwed up with multiple elbow/shoulder surgeries. It was incredibly stupid but they were duped with his interview skills and athleticism.
I don't think this is neccesarily one of many things to come for Kap. I simply think Green Bay was completely un-prepared for him. They probably thought it was a Webb-type scenario where the guy could run but not pass to save his life whereas Kap could actually pass if he did not opt to run.
I was a fan of his, moreso than Ponder, but I don't think anyone could have seen this coming. Man, he leveled GB's D by himself, simply an amazing performance!
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I never really thought Kaep would be very good, so I can't talk much. Still not sure what to think. He has a big arm but no touch. The one he threw to the left sideline that had zero arch on it was a good example of his passing issues and should have been picked.
As long as they can run the read option he should be good but his mechanics still suck.
Ponder was just a stupid pick because he was never even good in college and had his arm screwed up with multiple elbow/shoulder surgeries. It was incredibly stupid but they were duped with his interview skills and athleticism.
Someone must've missed his pass to Vernon Davis down the seam. Or the big gainer to Gore down the sideline.
He's got work to do but to say he has no touch is ridiculous.
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I never really thought Kaep would be very good, so I can't talk much.
Count me in that group as well. SF has done a really good job of developing him even though his arm motion is still too long and will cause trouble for him in the future (won't be throwing a ton of outs with him because of it as witnessed by the pick 6 he threw early yesterday).
Kid has a rocket arm though and when you combine that with his running ability it really is going to be interesting watching him progress during his career.
The other thing about passing on drafting Kaep that needs to be mentioned: He was drafted before Cam Newton or any of the young guys in the league today had played a game. Its absolutely amazing how much the running QB has advanced in the last two seasons. Before the last two seasons of football, it was usually wise to stay away from the running QB as they simply had not been all that successful. It was only two years ago that he was drafted but it really was a different NFL even just two years ago.
He would've been great for our second round pick, but the 49ers picked before us that year.
And I'm pretty sure that we would've mishandled his development (although that's essentially arguing that we should never draft a QB and should've just gone after Manning or another well-established QB).
CK has a ton of talent, but it's also being duly noted that his O-line is unbelievable, making his runs open up for his ability to shine through. That said, he has a cannon for an arm to go along with RB speed.
Give Denver Viking some props as I remember him LOVING Kaep with our 2nd round pick 2 years ago.
Well thanks for the props, CV. Like I said at the time, never has the NFL seen a QB that big, that strong, that fast, be that smart, that intense, and that high of character. I was intrigued by the first part of that equation, but sold by the second part.
And that's what's scary. All anyone is talking about right now is his size, arm and speed. But QBs with all that come and go. Rarely do you find a QB with his physical attributes boasting a 4.0 GPA, a 38 Wonderlic, and a Favre-like passion for playing football. It's his command of the offense and pocket accuracy that have been the most impressive.
He may not get there this year, but a QB with his intangibles is only going to get better.
Last edited by DenverViking; 01-21-2013 at 09:47 PM.
And that's what's scary. He may not get there this year, but a QB with his intangibles is only going to get better.
Joey Harrington, Tim Tebow, Mark Sanchez and hell, the guy Kaep replaced in Alex Smith, all disagree.
IMO focusing on a QB's "intangibles" or "It Factor" will lead to more mistakes than successes (we have a prime example of that under center now). I always think that NFL GM's should kind of look at it like a 40 yard dash time for a TE. Its not a HUGE factor in later success but there is a certain bar that a player does need to be above to play at this level.
The biggest reason Kaep has been successful so far is that they fixed his throwing motion somewhat and it worked for Kaep. That usually doesn't happen at this level.
Joey Harrington, Tim Tebow, Mark Sanchez and hell, the guy Kaep replaced in Alex Smith, all disagree.
You could throw me in there, too, Ducky. I have awesome intangibles. Hell, if you're just going to ignore half of my post, throw in Doug Flutie, too. And Rudy!
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