Manning

[PatsFan2003]

That's the thing with his articles.

Most of us here are hip to his jabs at the Pats.

Most people would read his stuff outside of this place and think nothing of it. I see right through it.

I sort of agree with that with a But.

I'm very sure he enjoyed the section detailing the Patriots/Belichick/Brady's failures in winning a 4th Superbowl and it's not that surprising to us here that that's the topic he selected to write about.

But, it's also a topic that more then a few analysts have pointed out, that despite the continuing success, in many different ways, of the Patriots since 2004 they haven't been able to win another ring.

In fact I know more then a few Patriots fans have bemoaned the notion that the Patriots have become more like the Manning Indy Colts thean we'd like. Great offensive machine, notable regular season achievments, MVP QB, mediocre defense... No rings.

I thought the article was not bad. I think it's a reasonable topic and wasn't over the top in Patriots hated. While parts of it are painful as a Patriots fan it was also fun to read how well they've done too.

[nordberg]

I sort of agree with that with a But.

I'm very sure he enjoyed the section detailing the Patriots/Belichick/Brady's failures in winning a 4th Superbowl and it's not that surprising to us here that that's the topic he selected to write about.

But, it's also a topic that more then a few analysts have pointed out, that despite the continuing success in many different way of the Patriots since 2004 they haven't been able to win another ring.

In fact I know more then a few Patriots fans have bemoaned the notion that the Patriots have become more like the Manning Indy Colts then we'd like. Great offensive machine, notable regular season achievments, MVP QB, mediocre defense... No rings.

I thought the article was not bad. I think it's a reasonable topic and wasn't over the top in Patriots hated. While parts of it are painful as a Patriots fan it was also fun to read how well they've done too.

I agree with all of that.

[NEpats_fan]

What say you, Pats fans? Can you make it 3 posts of personal attacks in a row?

I don't even see two personal attacks in row by PAT's fan?
Not that it matters cause like all fanbases there are ignorant and/or bandwagon people claiming life long fandom when they never watched an entire PATs game before Tom Brady!

Its like me saying all Seahawks fans are stupid if they think the Greenbay win was a TRUE win!
I am sure there are reasonable smart fans who know they got away with one which happens to all sports teams at some point in franchise history.

[NCPatsFan]

If you want to help, start watching games more analytically.

And it's the truth. If Manning didn't throw another inaccurate downfield pass, Manning is still playing this year.

Fixed that for ya...

You're welcome...

[BradyJustWins]

Headline to that article:



Gee, does this ring a bell for any QB not named Brady?

As someone else noted, he can get away with that on a different website. At face value it's true. They haven't won a 4th SB... despite having the lead with less than 3 minutes twice. He can't get away with it here. He basically says rings and postseason wins are overrated when the topic is Manning. When the topic is Brady who has three SBs and played in 5, they need to win it for their legacy.

Even his backers here have to admit, he's full of crap when he argues one point here and turns around and uses the opposite opinion to knock someone he doesn't like.

FWIW, say the Pats lose tomorrow. Sorry, doesn't take away from their legacy one bit. 7 AFCCs, 5 SBs and 3 SB wins is all-time stuff no matter how you slice it. Same goes if they lost the SB. Only QB or HC that has a better legacy in the SB era than that is Montana/Walsh. Just because they never lost one, Montana going 4-0 and Walsh going 3-0. GB and Cle only if we are talking pre-SB era.

[StillSwinging]

Headline to that article:



Gee, does this ring a bell for any QB not named Brady?

I did not write that line, though there's nothing wrong with it.

Why are you making it about the QB when it was about the Patriots (and the Ravens)? You can't talk about a player the same way you would an entire team.

The 2006 Colts won a title, and the 2009 team was in another SB. The only teams high on that list without a title besides New England are those early Oakland teams. That's it. That's not up for debate.

[CEH]

Curious even when Manning won the Super Bowl in 2006 he had 3 TDs and 7 INTs that post season
Nothing stellar about that performance.

[Dingleberry]

Curious even when Manning won the Super Bowl in 2006 he had 3 TDs and 7 INTs that post season
Nothing stellar about that performance.

I'll take this one, Still.

None of the 7 INT's were his fault, nor were they meaningful within the games themselves.

Forthermore, aloow me to present what is merely a sampling of the obstacles Peyton had to face: all-time worst D, all-time worst running game, all-time worst offensive weapons, stale dome air without the help of wind to carry his ball further, WR drops, having to outduel Rex Grossman, genital warts, bad coaching.....and this is just to start!

If you had any ability to analyze football, much less watch the game intelligently, I wouldn't have to explain to you that it was perhaps the greatest post-season by a QB in NFL history.

Idiot.

[Nastradamus]

Curious even when Manning won the Super Bowl in 2006 he had 3 TDs and 7 INTs that post season
Nothing stellar about that performance.

and he's had very good numbers in years when they didn't win. You can't have your cake and eat it too here.

[PatsFan2003]

I'll take this one, Still.

None of the 7 INT's were his fault, nor were they meaningful within the games themselves.

Forthermore, aloow me to present what is merely a sampling of the obstacles Peyton had to face: all-time worst D, all-time worst running game, all-time worst offensive weapons, stale dome air without the help of wind to carry his ball further, WR drops, having to outduel Rex Grossman, genital warts, bad coaching.....and this is just to start!

If you had any ability to analyze football, much less watch the game intelligently, I wouldn't have to explain to you that it was perhaps the greatest post-season by a QB in NFL history.

Idiot.

Thanks. I thought for sure it was an overrated QB being dragged to a championship by a surprisingly opportunistic and effective defense and a reliable kicker.

Who knew?

[Nastradamus]

I'll take this one, Still.

None of the 7 INT's were his fault, nor were they meaningful within the games themselves.

Forthermore, aloow me to present what is merely a sampling of the obstacles Peyton had to face: all-time worst D, all-time worst running game, all-time worst offensive weapons, stale dome air without the help of wind to carry his ball further, WR drops, having to outduel Rex Grossman, genital warts, bad coaching.....and this is just to start!

If you had any ability to analyze football, much less watch the game intelligently, I wouldn't have to explain to you that it was perhaps the greatest post-season by a QB in NFL history.

Idiot.

Stats are for losers

[LGM]

Stats are for losers

So are 9 page threads about a QB currently relaxing in Hawaii, and an individual poster who has had very little to do with this thread.

[Darrell Green Fan]

So are 9 page threads about a QB currently relaxing in Hawaii, and an individual poster who has had very little to do with this thread.

When you make a post claiming that Brady is to blame for Gronk's injury, well let's say you are opening the door. Don't ya think?

[LGM]

When you make a post claiming that Brady is to blame for Gronk's injury, well let's say you are opening the door. Don't ya think?

For nine pages of rebuttal? Cheesy doesn't get 9 pages in his CT threads.

[CEH]

and he's had very good numbers in years when they didn't win. You can't have your cake and eat it too here.

And he had 3 turnovers and a 4th nullified by a penalty when everyone and his brother knew Baltimore's only shot was if Denver turns the ball over

No other Bronco turned the ball over and not once did Manning and Co extend the lead past 7 when if they did they win the game

Denver needs to improve up the gut on offense and defense and I think Manning can ride the defense to a Super Bowl