More fiat/unconstitutional government.

[RayClay]

You have given no context under which those executive orders are given. As I recall, you lefties were up in arms when Bush was issuing them but when it's your boy in there, you defend them. They are unconstitutional and the Executive Branch cannot make law. You can dance around this all day but you cannot deny that your boy Obama is making law and it's illegal. Smart people who look beyond the political game the 2-parties are playing (the stage play for the idiot masses) and get REAL about what is going on in the halls of power are going to vote outside the 2-parties from now on. We desperately need to break their power hold and stop their illegal rule and instead restore servants to the Constitution who will uphold the law.

Obama issued executive orders enacting and extending a pay freeze in conjunction with congress and the budgeting process. Do you have a problem with that?

Funny how you didn't care about context before.

You are a fraud who parrots conservative blogosphere press releases, admit it.

The capitalizations and excessive exclamation points are original, though.

[Wounded Bear]

That's not a real car, by the way.

I'm sorry, but it has a steering wheel and everything (I have provided a picture as documentation):



Name one thing that is unconstitutional about this vehicle, TLC.

[RayClay]

I'm sorry, but it has a steering wheel and everything (I have provided a picture as documentation):



Name one thing that is unconstitutional about this vehicle, TLC.

Sure, it looks like a car. How do i know it's backed by a metal engine and transmission though? Huh, huh?

[thelittlecheese]

Obama issued executive orders enacting and extending a pay freeze in conjunction with congress and the budgeting process. Do you have a problem with that?

Yes. Because indefinite power was given. Where is the end to Congressional power in this matter within the Executive's hands?? Can you answer that? This is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

[RayClay]

Yes. Because indefinite power was given. Where is the end to Congressional power in this matter within the Executive's hands?? Can you answer that? This is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

Are you incapable of reading? It was not indefinite power, he was working on the budget with congress. He had agreed with congress to end the freeze on January first. He extended it to April. Then he made an executive order for what the rates would be after the freeze which he had enacted
two years earlier.

are you in favor of congress alone setting federal salaries including their own?

[Wounded Bear]

Sure, it looks like a car. How do i know it's backed by a metal engine and transmission though? Huh, huh?

You make a fair point.


I blame Obama.

[thelittlecheese]

Are you incapable of reading? It was not indefinite power, he was working on the budget with congress. He had agreed with congress to end the freeze on January first. He extended it to April. Then he made an executive order for what the rates would be after the freeze which he had enacted
two years earlier.

Again. SHOW ME WHERE THE POWER ENDS FOR THE PRESIDENT IN TERMS OF ADJUSTING RAISES FOR FEDERAL WORKERS! I see no end-term in this. The President has NO BUSINESS with this power. IT'S ILLEGAL! It violates Article I. Any idiot can understand this. Apparently you aren't just any idiot. You're a special case.

[RayClay]

Again. SHOW ME WHERE THE POWER ENDS FOR THE PRESIDENT IN TERMS OF ADJUSTING RAISES FOR FEDERAL WORKERS!

In this case, since it's within the budget process, it is not independent of congress in the first place

Any idiot can understand this.

Apparently not.

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[LGM]

Again. SHOW ME WHERE THE POWER ENDS FOR THE PRESIDENT IN TERMS OF ADJUSTING RAISES FOR FEDERAL WORKERS! I see no end-term in this. The President has NO BUSINESS with this power. IT'S ILLEGAL! It violates Article I. Any idiot can understand this. Apparently you aren't just any idiot. You're a special case.

Why hasn't this been validated by the Supremes then?

[Wounded Bear]

More fiats:




God I hate Obama.

[ThankGod4Walsh]

There is no specific clause in the Constitution which supports the use of executive orders.

For the executive to issue an order for various departments to implement the laws passed by Congress I see no problem with it.

For the executive to write his own laws, I see a big problem.

Abraham Lincoln suspending habeas corpus during the Civil War, FDR sending Japanese Americans to detention centers, those were executive orders.

We currently have a president who is so arrogant that he can't stand for anyone to disagree with him on anything, so he writes his own laws. That's not his job. That is not enumerated ANYWHERE in the Constitution.

I'll never understand why liberals favor totalitarianism and view the founders of this country (and our carefully selected system of government and systems of checks and balances) with such disdain and contempt.

Reminds me of a good quote by Justice Iredell on the Alien Enemy Act (and concerns about presidential "power" in the executive office)-

'All systems of government suppose they are to be administered by men of common sense and common honesty. In our country, as all ultimately depends on the voice of the people, they have it in their power, and it is to be presumed they generally will choose men of this description; but if they will not, the case, to be sure, is without remedy. If they choose fools, they will have foolish laws. If they choose knaves, they will have knavish ones. But this can never be the case until they are generally fools or knaves themselves, which, thank God, is not likely ever to become the character of the American people.'

Little did he know what modern American liberalism/progressivism would look like.......

[ForWhoForWhat?]

Again. SHOW ME WHERE THE POWER ENDS FOR THE PRESIDENT IN TERMS OF ADJUSTING RAISES FOR FEDERAL WORKERS! I see no end-term in this. The President has NO BUSINESS with this power. IT'S ILLEGAL! It violates Article I. Any idiot can understand this. Apparently you aren't just any idiot. You're a special case.

cheesy as he posts:

[thelittlecheese]

Why hasn't this been validated by the Supremes then?

Why indeed? Do you really expect a court of handpicked globalist boot lickers to champion the Constitution? The current Supreme Court have made so many unconstitutional rulings of major importance that I cannot seriously trust them to protect my freedom from a Federal Govt running amok.

[CalgaryHawkFan]

Power word 'globalist!'

Part.... uhm... well I've lost track