***Week 13 - 49ers vs St Louis Rams***

[9ERS4EVA]

That play did help result in a loss. To say Otherwise is just plain stupid or delusional. I bet you know both Zones very well. God what a tool

Ok chief. Just like it was stupid and delusional to think about benching Alex in favor of Colin, you know until our Head Coach did it.

Harbaugh even knows the play was the biggest mistake. Hopefully he does the right thing and takes over playcalling.

The other plays Colin made would've resulted in a win if our other players executed.

[Genus49]

Ok chief. Just like it was stupid and delusional to think about benching Alex in favor of Colin, you know until our Head Coach did it.

Harbaugh even knows the play was the biggest mistake. Hopefully he does the right thing and takes over playcalling.

He's not gonna take over playcalling. Roman is a genius after all...

What bothers me is why play Colin if you're going to playcall like you do for Alex Smith? If you want a game manager then stick with Alex that's what he does well. If you like the try to pick you spots and pray to get a lead then play field position and D then no reason to change things up.

One thing this team has done a good job of with Harbaugh is putting guys into position to succeed. They did that with Alex by limiting what he has to do so his weaknesses aren't exposed and he flourished. But with Kaepernick today they failed to do that and that's what most annoys me about this game.

Kaepernick is young and inexperienced I don't expect him to be perfect every game, hell guys like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning aren't perfect all the time and have bad games but I would expect the coaching staff to make this as easy for Colin as possible. Call plays that take his strengths and don't throw things out there that make him think too much.

I'm tired of saying this every 3rd game but...hopefully they learn their lesson from this and avoid all the cute BS. If regular fans like us can watch the game and see things aren't working I expect the coaches to fix it.

Totally outcoached today and I'm tired of our coaches playing for field goals especially when Akers is clearly struggling this year.

I said during the second half - the 49ers can't continue to run the ball on first and second down and expect success. If anything Colin did a good job picking up 3rd downs and trying to get those drives moving but it was deja vu all game long. short run on first, short run on 3rd then Colin either picked it up or he was rushed and we punt or attempt a FG.

I have to go back and rewatch the play but I think same thing happened before that FG. Frank had 5 yards so we're looking at 2nd and 5 then they run Jacobs and not even right up the middle...he gets one. Then they roll out Kaepernick to his left?! That was painful.

[Grimjack]

Ok chief. Just like it was stupid and delusional to think about benching Alex in favor of Colin, you know until our Head Coach did it.

Harbaugh even knows the play was the biggest mistake. Hopefully he does the right thing and takes over playcalling.

The other plays Colin made would've resulted in a win if our other players executed.

Harbaugh can fall on a sword all he wants. Kaep manned up on his Fuuck ups

Talk about saying nothing....

[Grimjack]

He's not gonna take over playcalling. Roman is a genius after all...

What bothers me is why play Colin if you're going to playcall like you do for Alex Smith? If you want a game manager then stick with Alex that's what he does well. If you like the try to pick you spots and pray to get a lead then play field position and D then no reason to change things up.

One thing this team has done a good job of with Harbaugh is putting guys into position to succeed. They did that with Alex by limiting what he has to do so his weaknesses aren't exposed and he flourished. But with Kaepernick today they failed to do that and that's what most annoys me about this game.

Kaepernick is young and inexperienced I don't expect him to be perfect every game, hell guys like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning aren't perfect all the time and have bad games but I would expect the coaching staff to make this as easy for Colin as possible. Call plays that take his strengths and don't throw things out there that make him think too much.

I'm tired of saying this every 3rd game but...hopefully they learn their lesson from this and avoid all the cute BS. If regular fans like us can watch the game and see things aren't working I expect the coaches to fix it.

Totally outcoached today and I'm tired of our coaches playing for field goals especially when Akers is clearly struggling this year.

I said during the second half - the 49ers can't continue to run the ball on first and second down and expect success. If anything Colin did a good job picking up 3rd downs and trying to get those drives moving but it was deja vu all game long. short run on first, short run on 3rd then Colin either picked it up or he was rushed and we punt or attempt a FG.

I have to go back and rewatch the play but I think same thing happened before that FG. Frank had 5 yards so we're looking at 2nd and 5 then they run Jacobs and not even right up the middle...he gets one. Then they roll out Kaepernick to his left?! That was painful.

The Niners did look good on 3rd downs. Haven't seen a Niner Fullback make so many catches since William Floyd. Took a step back on 1st and 2nd downs though

[9ERS4EVA]

He's not gonna take over playcalling. Roman is a genius after all...

What bothers me is why play Colin if you're going to playcall like you do for Alex Smith? If you want a game manager then stick with Alex that's what he does well. If you like the try to pick you spots and pray to get a lead then play field position and D then no reason to change things up.

One thing this team has done a good job of with Harbaugh is putting guys into position to succeed. They did that with Alex by limiting what he has to do so his weaknesses aren't exposed and he flourished. But with Kaepernick today they failed to do that and that's what most annoys me about this game.

Kaepernick is young and inexperienced I don't expect him to be perfect every game, hell guys like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning aren't perfect all the time and have bad games but I would expect the coaching staff to make this as easy for Colin as possible. Call plays that take his strengths and don't throw things out there that make him think too much.

I'm tired of saying this every 3rd game but...hopefully they learn their lesson from this and avoid all the cute BS. If regular fans like us can watch the game and see things aren't working I expect the coaches to fix it.

Totally outcoached today and I'm tired of our coaches playing for field goals especially when Akers is clearly struggling this year.

I said during the second half - the 49ers can't continue to run the ball on first and second down and expect success. If anything Colin did a good job picking up 3rd downs and trying to get those drives moving but it was deja vu all game long. short run on first, short run on 3rd then Colin either picked it up or he was rushed and we punt or attempt a FG.

I have to go back and rewatch the play but I think same thing happened before that FG. Frank had 5 yards so we're looking at 2nd and 5 then they run Jacobs and not even right up the middle...he gets one. Then they roll out Kaepernick to his left?! That was painful.

Roman doesn't know how to call a consistent pass game. He will line up guys to exploit matchups but if the defense changes up how they attack a certain formation he doesn't adjust. As hitman said he kept going with the jumbo even though it wasn't working. Kept going with straight play action drops instead of taking advantage of the quick hitters when they were there.

Seattle goes on the road to Chicago against one of the best defenses and lets their rookie qb go win them the game. Our coaches get the ball at midfield and decide to play for a 51 yard fg.

[Sakic19]

Roman doesn't know how to call a consistent pass game. He will line up guys to exploit matchups but if the defense changes up how they attack a certain formation he doesn't adjust. As hitman said he kept going with the jumbo even though it wasn't working. Kept going with straight play action drops instead of taking advantage of the quick hitters when they were there.

Seattle goes on the road to Chicago against one of the best defenses and lets their rookie qb go win them the game. Our coaches get the ball at midfield and decide to play for a 51 yard fg.

Bingo

This conservative playcalling is going to bite us big time.

They switch the Qb up to get more dynamic but our OC keeps the chains on him and our offense is held back.

Free these guys up....Who would you rather see on the field....AJ Jenkins, LeMichael James and Randy Moss in 3 wide or Will Tukuafu, Brandon Jacobs and Leonard Davis in a jumbo set??

Time to get with the times boys..we drafted these young playmakers to make plays......kinda hard to be dynamic when you run on 1st and 2nd downs every snap to no avail.

[Genus49]

I don't care who else sees the field but ever since I said Ted Ginn is a waste of a roster spot early last week(before the fumble) it's like he's been proving how wrong I was because I said how he couldn't be any more useless.

If you're going to have players out there making stupid mistakes like trying to pick that ball up I'd rather see Jenkins or LMJ. They may make their mistakes but maybe they'll also give us some big plays cuz Ginn isn't doing it. Tho I'm not sure how he made that great catch but does nothing else well anymore.

[Ricky Roma]

A pretty disappointing loss, which can be be pinned on obvoiusly, a few people. For some reason, I can see the Rams laying yet another dud next week in Buffalo, further cementing that the game against SF is their Super Bowl. Overall, the defense did its job, although they gave up the critical yards that put the Rams into the victory column in OT. They were the last of my concern, although Goldson and his min. one dumb play per game always seems to make a presence.

It's somewhat disappointing that neither Jenkins or James have even played a snap for us at this juncture. Looks as if they're not up to par on the playbook. The rushing attack, and offense overall, will miss the change of pace in Hunter, so I was hoping to see if James could at least take a few snaps to spell Gore. Jacobs, to me, isn't the answer.

The officiating was brutal for both sides, so no point in really commenting on them. No team got the noticable shaft in that regard. Roman's playcalling was suspect at best, and pretty terrible at worst. The pitchout to Ginn was probably the worst call I've seen in the Harbaugh era, but he isn't the only one to blame. Kaepernick's pitch was downright terrible and Ginn blatantly looked afraid of contact knowing he muffed the toss, while the Rams were ready to pounce.

Kaep wasn't bad, but made some more 'rookie' mistakes, which I'll expect the rest of the way. Besides that botched toss, he was lucky he wasn't a victim of a pick 6, (commentators at the time were ripping the Rams corners for being uber soft on an easy first down completion to Moss) and running out of bounds late in the contest which stopped the clock, and gave St. Louis hope. He made some nice throws, such as the touch pass to Crabtree, just over the outstretched arm of a corner, and a perfectly lobbed ball that Delanie Walker dropped which would've been probably the game-winning TD.

Speaking of game-winning....the whole series where Roman called plays in overtime to set up a 50+ yard FG.....right then and there, I knew SF was gonna lose. Missed FG, very short field for the Rams, ballgame.

[LASam]

I don't care who else sees the field but ever since I said Ted Ginn is a waste of a roster spot early last week(before the fumble) it's like he's been proving how wrong I was because I said how he couldn't be any more useless.

If you're going to have players out there making stupid mistakes like trying to pick that ball up I'd rather see Jenkins or LMJ. They may make their mistakes but maybe they'll also give us some big plays cuz Ginn isn't doing it. Tho I'm not sure how he made that great catch but does nothing else well anymore.

I've rewatched the play a few times and I think you're being too hard on Ginn. He was trying to see where the ball was and just as he caught sight of it Jenkins slid in there to recover it. It's not like he sat there staring at it not knowing what to do. There's no doubt he is not much of a WR but the blame for that play and the impending result falls squarely on Kap and the Coaches for calling it. Not just because of the awful pitch, but the decision to do it itself. He did enough to win the game but that play is one he just had a complete brain fart on.

[Genus49]

I've rewatched the play a few times and I think you're being too hard on Ginn. He was trying to see where the ball was and just as he caught sight of it Jenkins slid in there to recover it. It's not like he sat there staring at it not knowing what to do. There's no doubt he is not much of a WR but the blame for that play and the impending result falls squarely on Kap and the Coaches for calling it. Not just because of the awful pitch, but the decision to do it itself. He did enough to win the game but that play is one he just had a complete brain fart on.

I disagree, tho I'll admit well before even his fumble last week I thought Ginn has been playing like crap this year, he's an NFL veteran and he should know hte situation better than the 2nd year QB. The odds are miniscule that something good could happen on that play at that point. Yet he still made the attempt to pick the ball up rather than kick it out of bounds, fall on it or kick it out of the endzone.

It's probably his instinct in returning punts but he should know better. But either way nothing we can do about it now. I just dont want to see Ginn on offense ever again.

[LASam]

We're talking mili seconds in terms of the time he had to assess the situation. Instincts are to try and pick it up and do something or to fall on it but he literally had no time to do much of anything with Jenkins flying in there. The problem was the bad pitch. Trying to blame Ginn because he didn't kick it out of bounds is nitpicking imo. The biggest issue was the play call itself.

[Genus49]

We're talking mili seconds in terms of the time he had to assess the situation. Instincts are to try and pick it up and do something or to fall on it but he literally had no time to do much of anything with Jenkins flying in there. The problem was the bad pitch. Trying to blame Ginn because he didn't kick it out of bounds is nitpicking imo. The biggest issue was the play call itself.

I don't think it's nitpicking tho. I agree the playcall was the worst part and the pitch was crap but Ginn is a veteran player, there has to be some accountability for him. He had a chance to save his young QBs ass and help the team and he didn't. Split second or not this guy has played football all his life...who coaches a guy to pick that ball up?

[LASam]

I don't think it's nitpicking tho. I agree the playcall was the worst part and the pitch was crap but Ginn is a veteran player, there has to be some accountability for him. He had a chance to save his young QBs ass and help the team and he didn't. Split second or not this guy has played football all his life...who coaches a guy to pick that ball up?

He really didn't have time to do much of anything is the point. If you watch the play, he doesn't know where the ball is, then sees it and starts to bend down like he's going to grab it, but at the same time Jenkins steamrolls into him and jumps on the ball. In other words Jenkins was in better position to make a play on the ball because he saw the whole thing unfold and didn't have to locate the ball and then make a play like Ginn did. Either way we agree that the play call was the worst part of the whole thing.