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    Roman has been a huge upgrade, but he sometimes tries to force the issue - I think especially when he feels like there's a hidden weakness. In other words, his ego is big. He also failed to adjust for only having Gore in their and not having Hunter to attack the edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genus49 View Post
    The guy clearly lacks the same "evil genius" expertise in the passing game.
    How much of that is due to personel? I think that only time will tell with enough starts under Kaep's belt, assuming he'll grow to be an upper echelon quarterback, that we'll be able to truly talk about Roman and his full game plans.

    Overall, I have little problem with Roman given the tools he gets to work with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky Roma View Post
    How much of that is due to personel? I think that only time will tell with enough starts under Kaep's belt, assuming he'll grow to be an upper echelon quarterback, that we'll be able to truly talk about Roman and his full game plans.

    Overall, I have little problem with Roman given the tools he gets to work with.
    Do you think we have less talent than the Seahawks? They're letting Wilson play. If Roman wants to play a game manager game by the QB then I don't understand starting Kaepernick right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genus49 View Post
    Do you think we have less talent than the Seahawks? They're letting Wilson play. If Roman wants to play a game manager game by the QB then I don't understand starting Kaepernick right now.
    Wilson makes most of his plays after being chased out of the pocket. He's proven to be hard to sack and when he escapes he has the awareness to make a play. He's not dropping back and picking people apart every week. Roman hasn't altered the playcalling at all with the exception of the 3-4 designed runs or option they like to do with Kap. I'm not sure why you thought the offense would change all of a sudden just because they changed QB's. The system is the system no matter who is playing. They did the same thing with Luck at Stanford. They like a run heavy ball control attack with play action and this is what they likely will continue to do no matter who is in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LASam View Post
    Wilson makes most of his plays after being chased out of the pocket. He's proven to be hard to sack and when he escapes he has the awareness to make a play. He's not dropping back and picking people apart every week. Roman hasn't altered the playcalling at all with the exception of the 3-4 designed runs or option they like to do with Kap. I'm not sure why you thought the offense would change all of a sudden just because they changed QB's. The system is the system no matter who is playing. They did the same thing with Luck at Stanford. They like a run heavy ball control attack with play action and this is what they likely will continue to do no matter who is in there.
    Because it's stupid to go with a less experienced/safe player and not change things up to allow him to use his strengths. Why play the less experienced young kid if you're going to just have him be a game manager and not open up the offense a bit when he's in there to utilize his arm or scrambling ability?

    If they want to run the same offense they should've stuck with Alex. And nobody is saying they should go to the Colts/Lions type of offense where they throw 70% of the time. By all means utilize the running game and feature it...but when you do call pass plays don't be scared to throw it deep. Colin can be a game manager and dink and dunk but that's holding him back and at this point Alex Smith is much better and safer at doing that.
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    The Rams were taking away the deep ball. What was available were the slants and underneath patterns. The offense is what it has been under Smith and Luck before him. Kap may take a few more deep shots than Smith normally would but for the most part they won't change what they do. The biggest reason they made the switch in my opinion is because Kap showed an ability to do at least as much as they felt Smith could do and his upside is higher. I don't think they did it with the intention of changing their philosophy which is more ball control than explosive plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LASam View Post
    The Rams were taking away the deep ball. What was available were the slants and underneath patterns. The offense is what it has been under Smith and Luck before him. Kap may take a few more deep shots than Smith normally would but for the most part they won't change what they do. The biggest reason they made the switch in my opinion is because Kap showed an ability to do at least as much as they felt Smith could do and his upside is higher. I don't think they did it with the intention of changing their philosophy which is more ball control than explosive plays.
    Yet they didn't take advantage of this nearly to the degree they could've. Brady kills teams who play off his receivers. But instead of doing that, Roman decided to keep with the jumbo running hoping it would work.

    This isn't Stanford. Can't just say we are gonna keep doing what we do with no adjusting. Every game is different, each should be approached with a new game plan and it should adjust accordingly as the game progresses. Roman has shown very little ability to adjust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genus49 View Post
    If Roman wants to play a game manager game by the QB then I don't understand starting Kaepernick right now.
    Experience for the long term? The coaching staff knowing from Day 1 that Alex Smith can't take us to the next level, and feeling Colin was ready to assume the starting position? I don't think you can call what Kaepernick has done as being a 'game manager.' No way you can say that about his start against the Bears. Was it dialed back some against the Rams....sure, (I believe Kaep and co. were pulled in moreso after the injuries to Hunter and Williams) and I disagreed with a few decisions but at the end of the day, Kaepernick has 3 starts on his resume. Not 3 years.....3 games.

    Lets not forget that he was a Delanie Walker dropped TD pass and a missed FG in OT away from being 3-0 anyways. Give him time to grow before we go all Air Coryell on everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9ERS4EVA View Post
    Yet they didn't take advantage of this nearly to the degree they could've. Brady kills teams who play off his receivers. But instead of doing that, Roman decided to keep with the jumbo running hoping it would work.

    This isn't Stanford. Can't just say we are gonna keep doing what we do with no adjusting. Every game is different, each should be approached with a new game plan and it should adjust accordingly as the game progresses. Roman has shown very little ability to adjust.
    Not arguing this at all. I agree that Roman needs to do a better job adjusting to the defense instead of forcing what he wants to do. However the style they have run for the past almost 2 seasons - power run, play action, multiple formations and shifts - is what they do. They aren't going to be the Saints or Packers as far as throwing the football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky Roma View Post
    Experience for the long term? The coaching staff knowing from Day 1 that Alex Smith can't take us to the next level, and feeling Colin was ready to assume the starting position? I don't think you can call what Kaepernick has done as being a 'game manager.' No way you can say that about his start against the Bears. Was it dialed back some against the Rams....sure, (I believe Kaep and co. were pulled in moreso after the injuries to Hunter and Williams) and I disagreed with a few decisions but at the end of the day, Kaepernick has 3 starts on his resume. Not 3 years.....3 games.

    Lets not forget that he was a Delanie Walker dropped TD pass and a missed FG in OT away from being 3-0 anyways. Give him time to grow before we go all Air Coryell on everybody.
    Don't get me wrong Roma...I'm definitely in the start Kaepernick crowd...I just want the coaches to use him so his strengths are featured. If they want to playcall the way they did against the Rams it makes sense to start Alex because he fits that type - safe and careful but he's a veteran QB who wouldn't make some of those Colin made.

    IF they think that's going to win them games then they should've stuck with Alex. I don't think when you're in a middle of a playoff race you go with a guy just to give him experience. That's giving up on this season which is crazy.

    They need to let Colin play. Having his talent out there and using him just as a game manager is really dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genus49 View Post
    IF they think that's going to win them games then they should've stuck with Alex. I don't think when you're in a middle of a playoff race you go with a guy just to give him experience. That's giving up on this season which is crazy.

    They need to let Colin play. Having his talent out there and using him just as a game manager is really dumb.
    It's not just getting experience. It seems that Harbaugh has seen enough of Kaepernick to believe he can take over the starting position and take the 49ers offense to another level....but that's not gonna happen overnight. Each game is a different entity altogether....again, I didn't care for a few playcalls here and there against the Rams, but St. Louis was committed to stopping big plays. Instead of pointing to the 'game manager' position, perhaps Colin should be more praised in reining in his game and not forcing things.

    I'm gonna reserve my judgment over a series of games, and take many factors into consideration, when it comes to Kaepernick. Opponents and their abilities, field position, down and distance, injuries for and against....

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    I'd like to see them add more elements of the pistol. We have the most experienced QB of it in the NFL and have LMJ who is hinting on getting field time. I'm doubtfull that Harbs and Co will stray far from thier system.
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    http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/12...the-play-call/

    Definitely didn't like Roman's comments about this. The guy screams arrogance to me. You'd think a coach wouldn't be so quick to point to the player. He didn't mention Colin but it was pretty clear what he was insinuating. Colin to his credit took the heat for it .

    What pisses me off even more is that he's not acknowledging that it was a terrible playcall given the circumstance which scares the crap out of me that he'll continue to do that stuff.
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