138 Points

[Lofaw]

This should give you guys a better understand of what was going on. This is not to be celebrated, it was a calculated move by the coach and it was totaly BS.


David Arseneault is the man behind the plan. Since becoming Grinnell coach in 1989, Arseneault has focused less on putting together a successful team and more on getting his players' names in the record books. And, not incidentally, selling books and videos touting his innovative "system." At least three separate times a Grinnell player has set the D-III single-game scoring record, and each one has gotten national attention.

There were a LOT of possessions where Taylor would chuck up a shot, miss, and his teammate would get the rebound wide open under the basket. Instead of putting it back up, he would look for Taylor again and pass it out so he could chuck another three.

This, then, is how you score 138 points—a defense designed to get the ball back as fast as possible, even if it means letting the other team score....Oh, and David Larsen's "impressive" 70-point effort? Hardly. They were 90% wide open layups


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...scoring-record

I don't understand what is wrong with that? So the ball was passed back out to him. So what. If that other kid was so open under the basket he could have easily been the one that score so many points. Instead the kid had to make jump shots. Which is far harder then the unguarded guy under the basket just making an easy layup. I don't see anywhere that they let the other team take free layups so they could get the ball back. I'd agree with you if that team allowed the other team to score time after time that the record would be a shame, but I didn't read or hear that they did that.

[Gmaniac]

I don't understand what is wrong with that?

Not trying to be a d!ck... but there is clearly something wrong with passing up wide open lay-ups in order to force feed one player and purposely try to break an individual record at the expense of playing the game the right way.

If you really don't understand... I don't think the problem is with those trying to explain it to you.

[Daemon]

I don't mean to take anything away from the kid, he sounded like a real good guy from the clip that I heard. But the more I learn of this the more I side with ducky.

His coach made a mockery of the game. He essentially allowed the other team to shoot a layup as he sent his guy to the other end to cherry pick and get an open 3. I know it's DIII and not the Final Four but it still is not how the game is supposed to be played.

Because giving up two points to get three is a bad idea? It's not traditional, but clearly it can work.

[CalgaryHawkFan]

Because giving up two points to get three is a bad idea? It's not traditional, but clearly it can work.

I guess you'd have to clone the basketball teams, and have them play the game, one team playing to get the one guy the record, and the other one just trying to score as much as they can. See which one wins by more.

If you're getting more possessions and more scoring opportunities not burning clock trying to just force-feed the one player - which is the more prolific offense?

[CalgaryHawkFan]

Not trying to be a d!ck...

These phrases are almost always golden.

If you really don't understand... I don't think the problem is with those trying to explain it to you.

Yep didn't disappoint. :)

[Daemon]

I guess you'd have to clone the basketball teams, and have them play the game, one team playing to get the one guy the record, and the other one just trying to score as much as they can. See which one wins by more.

If you're getting more possessions and more scoring opportunities not burning clock trying to just force-feed the one player - which is the more prolific offense?

It worked in this instance. Did the coach pick this strategy for this game because he felt comfortable in handling the opponent regardless? Probably, but I've not dug in on how this all came about. Bottom line is this is a small D3 kid who has a record but will never sniff professional hoop. I hope he enjoys the accomplishment but recognizes it for what it is.

[Gmaniac]

Because giving up two points to get three is a bad idea?

An open lay-up is as much of a sure thing as you are going to have in B-ball. A 3-pointer... even if it is open... is not as good of a shot.

You take the open lay-up virtually every time over the 3-pointer... especially when the lay-up is your first choice. Remember: these kids were passing up the lay-up in order to pass it back out... that's just not good basketball. Period.

[Daemon]

An open lay-up is as much of a sure thing as you are going to have in B-ball. A 3-pointer... even if it is open... is not as good of a shot.

You take the open lay-up virtually every time over the 3-pointer... especially when the lay-up is your first choice. Remember: these kids were passing up the lay-up in order to pass it back out... that's just not good basketball. Period.

Agreed. You'll get no argument from me on the fundamentals of the game. But Loyola-Marymount employed a game plan akin to what was used here and regularly posted big win seasons back in the day. It's not basketball the way I want to see it or would coach it, but if this coach is looking at D3 hoop as entertainment for his school and fun for his players, maybe it works for them.