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  1. #1456
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelittlecheese View Post
    What started off my journey was WTC bulding 7 which was without a doubt, a controlled demolition. Then I found out that the govt NIST investigation released 'theories' about building 'collapses' that were parroted by the mass-media. Only to find out that the 'theories' were proven WRONG one after the other. The most telling was the inability for NIST to reproduce the failure of trusses at UL Labs with higher heat for longer periods of time than the WTC towers burned for. Then NIST retreated to "computer models" for all subsequent theoretical proofing rather than experiments, then REFUSED to release the modeling data for ANY of the WTC buildings including WTC-7 so the public could check their math and critique the results. Then a counter-group called Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth started debunking the theories and showed the most plausible theory, based on the evidence, was that the buildings were all brought down by controlled demolition. Hell, the way the buildings came down just looks like they were forced down and evidenced by observation that the towers just seems to blow apart floor by floor down to the BOTTOM, and building-7 just fell in on itself like a classic implosion.

    Then I decided to start finding more information. My investigation turned up tons of what seemed like unrelated factoids. Some were junk and some had substance. Along the way I collected enough scattered information about various topics that several different theories started to gain more and more substance. That's when I started looking explanations on full theories. Again, some were just not credible, not were anything other than raw external pieces of info used to give them any credibility. However some theories held substantial evidence that you could literally bring into a court and convince most juries that a conspiracy was indeed concocted by more than one person.

    Rosa Koire's - "Behind the Green Mask" is essential reading IMO for everyone in the world.
    Jeffery M Smith's - "Genetic Roulette" is also essential reading for everyone in the world.

    Let's just start with those two as the single most important duo of books. Your view of your government and corporations will never be the same again.

    I wish for people to actually go out and investigate these theories themselves. Fact check them and decide for yourselves. I have more suggestions but just start with those.
    So nothing before that that would make you question the government in the first place? From the WTC to the rise of the police state in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moriarty View Post
    Yes, but I don't think 4-leaf clovers are really the best metaphor here.
    haha...didn't notice thats what they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan2003 View Post
    So nothing before that that would make you question the government in the first place? From the WTC to the rise of the police state in the US?
    When I was taking in main stream media as my previous source of information, I was blinded by a false world view. Information about GMO scandals in Europe never reached our mainstream media. Neither did information about Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth. The 'police state' news were always prefaced with 'anti-terror' fear mongering, so I kept thinking it must be for our safety, never questioning what the true number of terror attacks were and contrasting that against the ridiculous force build-up of the DHS and whether it was justified. I always figured other people thought about that stuff and just never considered things were going too far.

    After seeing WTC-7 (which NEVER was talked about in the mainstream media) fall into itself and then finding out that the govt had no clear explanation for it, I decided to look into what other things surrounding 911 might have been doctored or twisted to avoid public scrutiny. What I found was jaw dropping and it wasn't just about 911, it stretched back DECADES into the past. Like I said. Start with 'Behind the Green Mask' and 'Genetic Roulette'. Those two publications are absolutely mind-blowing and if 'Behind the Green Mask' doesn't change your politics and if 'Genetic Roulette' doesn't change your food buying habits, then you have SERIOUS issues with letting go of the mainstream programming you've been indoctrinated with your whole life.
    As defined by the Official Terrorism Training For Law Enforcement:
    What Is Domestic Terrorism?
    Extreme force and violence perpetrated by
    the people government of a country, within that country,
    for the purpose of coercing its government and population public
    into modifying its behavior"

    You are either with Our Constitution or you are with The Terrorists!

    Government...if it leans to the left it eventually means theft. - tlc

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    http://mikesanubis.com/2012/04/24/hi...hiv-from-corn/

    Excerpt from the article:
    Let us flash back to 2002, when articles began to emerge about a biotech company called Prodigene. Prodigene specialized in producing genetically engineered crop varieties that would be used for pharmaceutical purposes. The following article, ProdiGene to spend millions on bio-corn tainting reveals that the company was fined by the USDA after their genetically modified corn strains contaminated a supply of soybeans.

    “In the Nebraska incident, some 500,000 bushels of soybeans were accidentally contaminated by a tiny amount of ProdiGene’s bio-corn. The soybeans were seized by the USDA after harvest in October and have been kept in a locked warehouse.”

    Another article was published in New Scientist which detailed Prodigene’s success in developing a strain of corn that had been genetically modified to contain a key protein found on the surface of the monkey form of HIV.”

    link below to a medical journal with an article published by Prodigene which explains “we expressed the SIV major surface glycoprotein gp130 (analogous to HIV gp120) in corn seed.”

    Today, there is almost no trace of the company Prodigene. Their website has been taken down, their phone lines are disconnected. However, a google search reveals that the CEO and President of Prodigene, Anthony G. Laos, was appointed to the Board for International Food and Agriculture Development by President Bush in 2002.

    The Board for International Food and Agriculture Development, otherwise known as USAID, is an independent federal government agency that works in third world countries to develop agriculture. Their website describes involvement in sub Saharan Africa. Their mission in sub Saharan Africa is to “incorporate good governance principles and innovative approaches to health, education, economic growth, agriculture, and the environment.”

    The Wikipedia entry on USAID: reveals that the organization financed the forced sterilization of 350,000 Peruvians to the tune of 36 million dollars.

    “In Peru, former president Alberto Fujimori (1990-2000) pressured 200,000 indigenous people in rural areas (mainly Quechuas and Aymaras) into being sterilized. In July 2002, a final report from the Health minister proved that between 1995 and 2000, 331 600 women and 25 590 men had been sterilized. The program was mainly financed by the USAID (36 000 000 dollars) and the UNFPA (United Nations Population Fund).”

    The USAID website also reveals that over the past 20 years, genetically modified crops have accounted for “an estimated half of agricultural productivity improvements.” It goes on to say that “As we face global population growth, increased competition for land and water resources from industrial and urban growth, climate change, and the need to protect the environment, we need new solutions to increasing agricultural productivity to combat hunger and poverty.”

    In summary, we have the president of a company producing HIV tainted strains of corn on the board of an organization that is involved in providing genetically modified crops to sub Saharan Africa, where corn consumption is now being linked to HIV infection rates.

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    INCREDIBLE! The links to GMO food corporations and STERILIZATION PROGRAMS continues to be just dumbfounding. When you actually plug in a google search in regarding an idea about GMO crops and sterilization and population control, the cross references you get are just ASTOUNDING! To say that the GMO food corporations AND GOVERNMENTS aren't involved DIRECTLY in 3rd world population and sterilization programs is just to be completely blind to the truth. Our media has been COMPLETELY ABSENT on this front. COMPLETELY ABSENT. People in the U.S. consume GMOs everyday and yet our media completely ignores DISTURBING information that has been available for more than a DECADE.

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    More from the article:
    More information has come to light about Prodigene since this article was originally published. The following two articles explain what happened to Prodigene and establish a link between Prodigene and the Obama administration

    Rajiv Shah, Obamas Top USAID appointee, was working under a man named Tom Vilsack at the USDA. Tom Vilsask was involved with Prodigene and the push for limited regulation on biopharma crop growers.

    The Case Against Rajiv Shah: Don’t Let Monsanto Take Over USAID

    “ProdiGene eventually went out of business, but not before it received a $6 million investment from the Governors Biotechnology Partnership, chaired by Iowa governor, Tom Vilsack, currently Shah’s boss at the USDA. Vilsack didn’t want any restrictions placed on experimental pharma crops. In reaction to suggestions that pharma crops should be kept away from food crops, Vilsack argued that ‘we should not overreact and hamstring this industry.’

    Obama’s Pick for Head of USAID: Forcing GMO’s on the World’s Poor

    “After a short stint at USDA, Rajiv Shah has been picked by the Obama Administration to head up the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID).”


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    Mystery Science: More Details on the Strange Organism That Could Destroy Monsanto

    Back in January, a noted plant scientist who spent much of his career at Purdue University sent a letter to the USDA informing the agency that he’d discovered a mysterious new disease-causing organism in Monsanto’s (MON) genetically engineered Roundup Ready corn and soybeans. Now, that scientist — Don Huber — has written a follow-up letter to the USDA and appears in a videotaped interview where he presents an even scarier picture of the damage he claims Monsanto’s herbicide chemical glyphosate (the main ingredient in Roundup) is doing to both plants and the animals who eat them.




    What is so astonishing is that an article of such gravity and importance, filled with VERIFIABLE FACTS AND FOOTNOTES is doing on a kooky site... This ought to be an article on the front page of our mainstream media, alerting that nation to the dangers in our food supply.

    What everyone should find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe is that it's somehow just 'an accident' that all of these GMO plants and pesticides 'just so happened' to have a STERILIZATION EFFECT on mammals!!! These associations show quite a SERIOUS indictment that these 'inventions' were developed SPECIFICALLY to induce STERILIZATION & long-term disease in mammals. This is without a doubt targeted at HUMANS.

    It's NO WONDER that Monsanto pulled every string it could to get that "immunity law" from lawsuit and criminal responsibility regarding their GMO food products. THEY KNOW what this stuff does to people and they fully expect at some point, the LONG TERM effects to start showing up in human health and that people will do some basic research and find out that it's their FOOD causing these terrible health effects.
    Last edited by thelittlecheese; Today at 04:28 AM.
    As defined by the Official Terrorism Training For Law Enforcement:
    What Is Domestic Terrorism?
    Extreme force and violence perpetrated by
    the people government of a country, within that country,
    for the purpose of coercing its government and population public
    into modifying its behavior"

    You are either with Our Constitution or you are with The Terrorists!

    Government...if it leans to the left it eventually means theft. - tlc

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