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    Obama & Foreign Policy

    There seems to be this reputation that Obama has as a great foreign policy President. Is it deserved? I think the jury is still out on Libya and Egypt, but they certainly weren't the wave of western democracy that we had hoped for. Iran is still being Iran. There is another thread about the live mic mishap with Russia, and now Poland is asking "“Were they trading Poland? Puzzling Obama talk with Medvedev about the missile shield." http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpoli...rattles-poland

    And then there was this interesting video from the Danes dissecting how Obama gives similar false praise to many nations:



    Thoughts on his foreign policy record?
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    Yes, those countries are still full of Muslims. Yes, diplomats generally say nice things about different countries.
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    Obama strikes me as rather naive but foreign policy is difficult business for any president.
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    So ending the biggest boondogle of war our country has known, finding and killing Osama, increased pressure/sanctions on Iran, and a possible (but who knows) talks with North Korea don't count?
    There is a time to laugh and a time not to laugh, and this is not one of them.

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    Well, since he hasn't gone all imperial on any Middle East nations, let NATO as a whole take the lead on Libya, and hasn't invaded Iran yet... I think his foreign policy has been alright.

    I would still like to see more activism in Syria though

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    He needs a new metaphor. Of course all these damn small countries are lightweights and equally insignificant and need to fight it out, obviously.

    I think a lot of countries can be strong allies. the more the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LGM View Post
    So ending the biggest boondogle of war our country has known?
    Ever hear of Vietnam or Korea?
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    Do people make Facebook accounts for the express purpose of trolling Buzzfeed comment threads?
    Tell me where the bomb is or I will kill your son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    Ever hear of Vietnam or Korea?
    Cost?
    There is a time to laugh and a time not to laugh, and this is not one of them.

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    He'll be able to handle foreign policy better once re-elected and more 'flexible'........
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    Quote Originally Posted by LGM View Post
    Cost?
    Yeah. Somewhere around 50,000 Americans killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongo Freebase View Post
    He'll be able to handle foreign policy better once re-elected and more 'flexible'........
    in other words, better than anything the repubs have to offer....
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    Quote Originally Posted by toine View Post
    in other words, better than anything the repubs have to offer....
    In your words....maybe....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenneth2k1 View Post
    Yeah. Somewhere around 50,000 Americans killed.
    So boondoggle = loss of life? Okay.
    There is a time to laugh and a time not to laugh, and this is not one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGM View Post
    Cost?
    Korea 1950-1953 1952
    Current Year $ 30 billion
    Constant FY2011$ 341 billion

    Vietnam 1965-1975 1968
    Current Year $ 111 billion 2.3% 9.5%
    Constant FY2011$ 738 billion

    Iraq 2003-2010 2008
    Current Year $ 715 billion
    Constant FY2011$ 784 billion
    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RS22926.pdf

    Add to the fact that more than 58,000 Americans lost their lives in Vietnam and almost 37,000 Americans lost their lives in Korea, both of which accomplished virtually nothing, and I think you can argue that the total cost for those two wars was higher.

    At least in Iraq, the evil dictator and his kids are no longer taking oxygen, and there is a democratically elected government in place.

    Worthwhile? No.

    Worthless? Also no.
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