Lebron James: Fake Superstar

**JonBlaze** · 06-13-2011, 05:31 PM

Dwight Howard for Lebron James would be HUGE. It would make sense for Miami to be honest but I doubt they look at it. Wow, that's crazy!

**Iggloo** · 06-13-2011, 05:40 PM

Explain how someone who doesn't want the ball in the clutch in the NBA Finals is a superstar.

**Anointed One** · 06-13-2011, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Iggloo

Explain how someone who doesn't want the ball in the clutch in the NBA Finals is a superstar.

You know exactly for sure that he doesn't want it in the clutch? I've seen him play clutch quite a few times so far in his career... It's obvious to me that he and D-Wade aren't on the same page as yet...

**TheStarStillShines** · 06-13-2011, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Anointed One

You know exactly for sure that he doesn't want it in the clutch? I've seen him play clutch quite a few times so far in his career... It's obvious to me that he and D-Wade aren't on the same page as yet...

As the series went on, it seemed to me that James didn't want the ball - or at the very least he didn't want to be the one making the shots. He increasingly deferred to his teammates instead of being aggressive and attacking the Mavs.

**Yellowknifer** · 06-13-2011, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Nastradamus

He sucks when he posts up. He turns it over or misses a terrible shot(like the one where he missed the square all together) every time. He could be a great post up player if he worked at it.

I wonder about his work ethic. Now, he is clearly not lazy. The guy works hard, stays in shape, improves his game a bit here and there. However, I just don't think he has that Kobe/Dirk type work ethic personally. He hasn't improved his weaknesses enough by now(though there is time) and honestly, and maybe I'm wrong, he just doesn't appear to be as chiseled as he used to be. He's letting his body get a little soft I feel like. I don't think he has that elite level drive.

I don't think he works hard. At all. I don't think he has to. Even to stay in shape. Some people are blessed that way.

**PC Load Letter** · 06-13-2011, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by JonBlaze

You just said it yourself. The media crowns him and now the media rips him for not living up to THEIR expectations. Just face it, you would have hated on him even if he won this title or any other.

Sure the media blew him from the beginning, doesn't mean the dude needs to be a giant douche. The media didn't tat him up with chosen 1 and witness. The media didn't put a gun to his head to do "the decision". The media didn't make the Heat have a victory celebration before the pre-season.

What's even funnier is the jaded Cleveland fans celebrating now and calling him a choker and this and that but they were blind to all of it when they had the Witness poster and they all had a 23 jersey. Typical Ohio-ans, and I'm originally from the Akron area.

Dude is gonna get a ring eventually but it was awesome seeing Dirk, J-Kidd and Terry get theirs.

**Iggloo** · 06-13-2011, 06:03 PM

I don't see how anyone could have watched the last few finals games and still claim that Lebron wanted that ball in the clutch.

Compare him to Wade and tell me he had the same desire.

**Xulu Bak** · 06-13-2011, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by VOTC

Van gundy last night already called for them to trade James to Orlando for Howard.

I wouldn't make that trade if I were Orlando. Wade + Howard > Wade + James + Bosh. I don't mean from a talent perspective, but from the perspective of building a team.

**Anointed One** · 06-13-2011, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Xulu Bak

I wouldn't make that trade if I were Orlando. Wade + Howard > Wade + James + Bosh. I don't mean from a talent perspective, but from the perspective of building a team.

Why wouldn't you make that trade if you think that Wade + Howard would be better than the 3 already in Miami? Wade + Howard or LeBron + Howard would be better than the 3 already together... LeBron and Wade are too much a like... One of them is going to have to give way to the other in terms of the go to guy on the team...

**Xulu Bak** · 06-13-2011, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Anointed One

Why wouldn't you make that trade if you think that Wade + Howard would be better than the 3 already in Miami?

I think you're missing the "if I were Orlando" bit.

**Nastradamus** · 06-13-2011, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Yellowknifer

I don't think he works hard. At all. I don't think he has to. Even to stay in shape. Some people are blessed that way.

Could be true.

**Nastradamus** · 06-13-2011, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Xulu Bak

I wouldn't make that trade if I were Orlando. Wade + Howard > Wade + James + Bosh. I don't mean from a talent perspective, but from the perspective of building a team.

If Orlando is going to lose DHo anyways, then you do not turn down Lebron. If you have the option of either, you don't make the trade, but that may not be the case.

**Xulu Bak** · 06-13-2011, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Nastradamus

If Orlando is going to lose DHo anyways, then you do not turn down Lebron. If you have the option of either, you don't make the trade, but that may not be the case.

I disagree. I dunno who's gonna be a FA, but I'd take the next best option, over James, if acquiring James puts Wade and Howard together (and Bosh would still be there, with Howard compensating for his greatest weakness). James + whatever they could put together around him would have 0 chance of beating Wade+Howard.

**Iggloo** · 06-13-2011, 06:52 PM

I really doubt Miami would ever trade Lebron. The Howard trade would obviously make them better (which says a lot about Lebron), but it would require the Heat to admit Lebron was not the answer and that is unlikely. I also suspect he has a no trade clause and it is impossible but I am just guessing that part.