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  1. #106
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    That is a lot of money for a non-closer.
    Mac9, to the true warrior. the ultimate competitor and the most worth adversary any athlete has ever faced off against. He was an inspiration for both his on the field play, off the field contributions and his leadership. The world is now a worse place without him.

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    No doubt, but I'm fine with it. I like the attitude it shows.

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    Yeah, I'm just saying it's risky. Esp for a guy with his arm history
    Mac9, to the true warrior. the ultimate competitor and the most worth adversary any athlete has ever faced off against. He was an inspiration for both his on the field play, off the field contributions and his leadership. The world is now a worse place without him.

    "Have the courage to have your wisdom regarded as stupidity" - Justice Antonin Scalia

    "Just because you're the lone voice in the wilderness, it doesn't mean you're wrong."
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    Oh yeah, I completely agree. One of the more dominant set up years in recent memory, but huge risk/reward signing. 5 million is a write off to me in the end, but I see that there is valid criticism on this one.

    now just beat out Boston for Upton and we are good! Turner,Fields and what else

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    VICTOR MARTINEZ BABY!

    I'm excited. Exactly the contract I wanted to give him. He'll likely catch against lefties only, DHing otherwise. I hear we have the highest offer out to Crawford too, but not sure if that was pre-VMart or not. Even just bringing Maggs back would be fine. Peralta for a whole season, a decent year out of Porcello/Raburn types and a revamped bullpen shoudl do the trick

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    4 years, 50 million for VMart?

    WTF are you doing Jack Z??!?!?! God I hate our GM sometimes.

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    Martinez is a good get for the Tigers over the next year or two but as a division rival I certainly don't mind the fact that they had to give him a 4 year deal as he already was a player on the decline. That's going to be a lot of money to pay for a guy who probably won't be able to play anywhere but DH two years down the road and, while his numbers last year look solid, I am really skeptical that he is going to be able to come anywhere close to those numbers over the next 4 years while moving from one of the best hitters park in the league to one of the tougher ones.

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    I totally understand that thinking Ducky. I think he can be a backup C type for us for 2, maybe even 3 years(less wear and tear, so maybe you can stretch it out rather than 1-2 full years of catching), but years 3 and 4 are tricky. To this point, he has always produced enough to be a top DH, but he'll have to keep it up. Either way, he protects Miggy in the short term very well and will help give us more offense from 2 spots where we struggled. I'm cool with it overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seahawksfan837 View Post
    4 years, 50 million for VMart?

    WTF are you doing Jack Z??!?!?! God I hate our GM sometimes.
    Weird that they didn't enter bidding. I guess the Chone deal slowed them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastradamus View Post
    VICTOR MARTINEZ BABY!

    I'm excited. Exactly the contract I wanted to give him. He'll likely catch against lefties only, DHing otherwise. I hear we have the highest offer out to Crawford too, but not sure if that was pre-VMart or not. Even just bringing Maggs back would be fine. Peralta for a whole season, a decent year out of Porcello/Raburn types and a revamped bullpen shoudl do the trick
    Might as well go whole hog and go get Jeter now, too.
    "I will punch you." - Wounded Bear

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    There is a small part of me that says it would be kinda cool to have him at 2B for 3-4 years.
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    Woo, Maggs back for 1/10. Turned down 2 years from others.
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    Are Coke and Galaraga really gonna be the 4/5 guys?
    Mac9, to the true warrior. the ultimate competitor and the most worth adversary any athlete has ever faced off against. He was an inspiration for both his on the field play, off the field contributions and his leadership. The world is now a worse place without him.

    "Have the courage to have your wisdom regarded as stupidity" - Justice Antonin Scalia

    "Just because you're the lone voice in the wilderness, it doesn't mean you're wrong."
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    I want to give Coke a shot, but I've come to realize we need to seriously upgrade from AG(bottom 5-10 for anyone over 100 IP as far as FIP and what not). I hope Dombrowski is just bluffing or something. I"d like a guy like Shields, but if not, at least try out a Wang or Washburn type(I'm in love with both this year as reclamation projects, especially Washburn).
    "Governing doesn’t disappear when government shrinks; instead corporations come to govern your life — like HMO’s, oil companies, drug companies, agribusiness, and so on, with accountability only to maximizing profit, not to public needs." - George Lakoff

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