Twins 2009: Year Long Thread

[twolvesguy]

LMAO. No roof in Minnesota in April and October.

That should be fun. ;)

We have the same weather other northern teams do in Oct/Apr. The issue in MN is Mid-Nov thru the early part of March.

[The Q]

We have the same weather other northern teams do in Oct/Apr. The issue in MN is Mid-Nov thru the early part of March.

Yeah, and it's not fun up here either. ;)

[PsychoViking]

LMAO. No roof in Minnesota in April and October.

That should be fun. ;)

But seriously can we stop with the poor small market twins and their $96 million payroll?

this team is not a small market, nor are they poor.


that is all, carry on.

Minneapolis is a mid-sized market, but any team playing in the dome could be characterized as small market because the revenue situation essentially put them into that box. The new stadium has certainly put them into the mid-market tier again.

Blame the owners and the union for even playing games in April and October. They should drop 20 games from the schedule but, much like everything MLB and the union SHOULD do, they'll never allow it.

So playing cold weather games will be no different in Minnesota than it will be in Detroit, Chicago, and Cleveland.

[The Q]

I'm not sure it's the dome itself as much as it's just the Metrodome itself.

What big market has a dome?

I dont' think NY or Boston would've had any problems with a dome stadium. Or even LA.

A retractable roof should've been added for those snowy april days. ;)

[PsychoViking]

Yes, dome=metrodome.

[ducky]

Minneapolis is a mid-sized market, but any team playing in the dome could be characterized as small market because the revenue situation essentially put them into that box. The new stadium has certainly put them into the mid-market tier again.

The one thing that a lot of non-fans of the Twins might not realize is that the dome was built FOR the Vikings and it was only a last minute deal that got the Twins in there. The Twins didn't generate a single penny of revenue from the luxury boxes in the dome....that all went to the Vikings and the Twins also didn't get their full share from concessions either.

The dome was a piss poor stadium but what really made the Twins a 2nd class citizen in MLB all those years was the structure of how the Twins got revenue out of it.

...and yes Q that all changes with the new stadium. I was actually really skeptical if the Twins would actually spend some of the new stadium money on the payroll or whether they would be pinching pennies again and trying to pay down their debt load quickly. Glad to see them expanding the payroll like they should with this new TAX PAYER FUNDED stadium.

[Nastradamus]

Damn that is a pretty sweet line-up. If we can get Hardy back on track (he SUCKED last year for those who didn't know), Delmon to play the whole season like he is capable (he evidently lost 20 lbs over the offseason getting in shape so that is good), and keep the rest of the line-up more or less healthy, we should easily finish in the top 5 in the league in runs.

Easily division favorites right now, without Hudson probably. I'm not really a big Hudson fan at all to be honest and I'm not even sure he is a plus for you. Worst case scenario, he is a nice bat off the bench though. You have guys like Punto who can be defensive replacements for him(but, but, he won a Gold Glove...)

Tigers really need to answer with Damon. Not saying its enough, but we can't sit back and let you continue to add talent while we do nothing. Plus we really need a guy like Damon tbh, someone who can lead off and be in Austin Jackson's ear.

[Nastradamus]

The one thing that a lot of non-fans of the Twins might not realize is that the dome was built FOR the Vikings and it was only a last minute deal that got the Twins in there. The Twins didn't generate a single penny of revenue from the luxury boxes in the dome....that all went to the Vikings and the Twins also didn't get their full share from concessions either.

The dome was a piss poor stadium but what really made the Twins a 2nd class citizen in MLB all those years was the structure of how the Twins got revenue out of it.

...and yes Q that all changes with the new stadium. I was actually really skeptical if the Twins would actually spend some of the new stadium money on the payroll or whether they would be pinching pennies again and trying to pay down their debt load quickly. Glad to see them expanding the payroll like they should with this new TAX PAYER FUNDED stadium.

Can't help but get this off my chest. Taxpayer's don't pay for anything if they don't think it will bring back more than they spent. Lets not cry for them too much. Its profitable to have a profitable pro sports team in your city.

[Nastradamus]

We have the same weather other northern teams do in Oct/Apr. The issue in MN is Mid-Nov thru the early part of March.

Yeah, haven't you noticed the weather issues those teams have had? Not a big deal or anything, but not a non-issue.

[Nastradamus]

I don't think we need Pridie unless he just flat out wins a job in Spring.

Punto and even Tolbert can play OF/CF in a pinch. Kubel can also fill in as the 4th OF while Thome DH's. Span is going to play at least 150 games so unless he suffers an injury, no need to give a job to Pridie.

not worried about OF defense at all with Kubel and Cuddyer in the corners??
Span is a great defensive LF and a pretty darn good CF as well, but you need Willie Mays to cover those guys.

[twolvesguy]

not worried about OF defense at all with Kubel and Cuddyer in the corners??

Not anymore than I already am with Young and Cuddyer in the corners. :)

[ducky]

Not anymore than I already am with Young and Cuddyer in the corners. :)

Rock and a god damn hard place. ;)

[The Q]

Not anymore than I already am with Young and Cuddyer in the corners. :)

LMAO.

Touche sir.

Touche. Such irony that now the Twins OF is a defensive question mark.

[Fandango]

Yeah, haven't you noticed the weather issues those teams have had? Not a big deal or anything, but not a non-issue.

But the opposing team has to play in the same weather. So it is sort of a non-issue as far as the actual game being played...in fact it probably even favors the Twins since they will at least be used to playing in cold weather.

[ducky]

But the opposing team has to play in the same weather. So it is sort of a non-issue as far as the actual game being played...in fact it probably even favors the Twins since they will at least be used to playing in cold weather.

The problem is that if we have a streak of rain/snow/cold outs like have happened to some of the northern teams, it can absolutey kill a team's whole month because they sit for 2-4 days and do nothing and then have to play a string of doubleheaders later.

Rainouts even in the middle of summer can really kill a teams bullpen. It has been nice not to have to worry about those situations 81 games a year. I'm certainly happy to have the new outdoor stadium....but they really should have figured out a way to get a roof on that stadium. It was just as short-sighted a move as moving them into the dome 30 years ago.