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11-29-2006, 02:46 AM
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I like Jack's list but I would probably have Samuel over Scrabble (not saying he doesn't deserve a spot)
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Samuel and Scrabble were a push to me. Tiebreaker was the fan in me. Asomugha has really, really stepped up his game this year. Fabian Washington, too. I just wanted to get one of them some recognition.
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11-29-2006, 02:56 AM
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Adalius Thomas better not get snubbed again this year. 
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11-29-2006, 03:05 AM
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Thomas has a tough road to hoe.
The AFC is littered with strong candidates at OLB:
Shawne Merriman
Shaun Phillips
Joey Porter
David Thornton
Mike Vrabel
DJ Williams
Cato June
Derrick Johnson
Ian Gold
Angelo Crowell
Rosevelt Colvin
Keith Bulluck
Eric Barton
Clark Haggans
Bart Scott
You can only vote for two.
Thomas would be a fine pick. But Scott would be, too.
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11-29-2006, 03:23 AM
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I almost put Parker in there, but I'm guessing by Week 16 or so Addai will have better numbers.
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Understood. It just seems to be very tough for rookies to make the pro bowl. Plus Parker's next 2 games are TB and Cleveland at home, he should rack up big numbers.
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11-29-2006, 03:24 AM
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Adalius Thomas better not get snubbed again this year. 
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He will definitely make it this year. IMO he is a legit candidate for DPOY
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11-29-2006, 04:08 AM
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Wilson has missed more than a few tackles. He'd have 8 sacks and 20 TFLs by now if he'd made the plays he should have made, and the Cardinals' defense would be a lot better than it has been.
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LOL, if you say so, sport. Now I've heard it all....the Cardinals poor defensive play is due to Wilson?!??! I'd suggest you turn on the tube and watch a game or two before making assesments in the future, bud.
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11-29-2006, 05:15 AM
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AFC
QB: Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, Philip Rivers
RB: LT, Larry Johnson, Joseph Addai
FB: Lorenzo Neal
WR: Chad Johnson, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Javon Walker
TE: Antonio Gates, Todd Heap
OT: Tarik Glenn, Marcus McNeill, Jonathan Ogden
OG: Logan Mankins, Pete Kendall, Brian Waters
C: Dan Koppen, Jeff Saturday
DE: Jason Taylor, Derrick Burgess, Trevor Pryce
DT: Jamal Williams, John Henderson, Richard Seymour
OLB: Adalius Thomas, Shawne Merriman
ILB: Zach Thomas, London Fletcher
CB: Champ Bailey, Asante Samuel, Chris McAlister
SS: Kevin Kaesviharn
FS: Kerry Rhodes
K: Matt Stover
P: Brian Moorman
KR: Justin Miller
ST: Jarrod Cooper
NFC
QB: Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Marc Bulger
RB: Frank Gore, Tiki Barber, Brian Westbrook
FB: Justin Griffith
WR: Roy Williams, Steve Smith, Marques Colston, Darrell Jackson
TE: Alge Crumpler, Chris Cooley
OT: Jammal Brown, Walter Jones, John Tait
OG: Shawn Andrews, Steve Hutchinson, Jahri Evans
OC: Olin Kruetz, Jeff Faine
DE: Julius Peppers, Aaron Kampman, Leonard Little
DT: Pat Williams, Kevin Williams, Tommie Harris
OLB: Julian Peterson, Scott Fujita
ILB: Brian Urlacher, Chris Draft(obligatory homer pick)
CB: Terrence Newman, Charles Woodson, Lito Sheppard
SS: Adrian Wilson
FS: Brian Dawkins
K: John Kasay
P: Mat McBriar
KR: Devin Hester
ST: David Tyree
And before someone calls me a homer for putting Kasay up there over Gould, let me explain my reasoning. Yes, Gould is an impressive 26/27, but he hasn't even attempted a FG of 50+ yards in his 2-year career(much less made one). Kasay is 18/20 this season, but his only misses are from 53 and 65 yards. I think elite kickers should be able to make long field goals, can Gould do that? Another thing, has Gould actually had to make a pressure kick all season? Kasay has a game winner this season for what it's worth.
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11-29-2006, 05:20 AM
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AFC
QB: Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, Philip Rivers
RB: LT, Larry Johnson, Joseph Addai
FB: Lorenzo Neal
WR: Chad Johnson, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Javon Walker
TE: Antonio Gates, Todd Heap
OT: Tarik Glenn, Marcus McNeill, Jonathan Ogden
OG: Logan Mankins, Pete Kendall, Brian Waters
C: Dan Koppen, Jeff Saturday
DE: Jason Taylor, Derrick Burgess, Trevor Pryce
DT: Jamal Williams, John Henderson, Warren Sapp
OLB: Adalius Thomas, Shawne Merriman
ILB: Zach Thomas, London Fletcher
CB: Champ Bailey, Asante Samuel, Chris McAlister
SS: Kevin Kaesviharn
FS: Kerry Rhodes
K: Matt Stover
P: Brian Moorman
KR: Justin Miller
ST: Jarrod Cooper
NFC
QB: Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Marc Bulger
RB: Frank Gore, Tiki Barber, Brian Westbrook
FB: Justin Griffith
WR: Roy Williams, Steve Smith, Marques Colston, Darrell Jackson
TE: Alge Crumpler, Chris Cooley
OT: Jammal Brown, Walter Jones, John Tait
OG: Shawn Andrews, Steve Hutchinson, Jahri Evans
OC: Olin Kruetz, Jeff Faine
DE: Julius Peppers, Aaron Kampman, Leonard Little
DT: Pat Williams, Kevin Williams, Tommie Harris
OLB: Julian Peterson, Scott Fujita
ILB: Brian Urlacher, Chris Draft(obligatory homer pick)
CB: Terrence Newman, Charles Woodson, Lito Sheppard
SS: Adrian Wilson
FS: Brian Dawkins
K: John Kasay
P: Mat McBriar
KR: Devin Hester
ST: David Tyree
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This is pretty damn on point for me too. Only notable changes I'd make are:
AFC TE's: Winslow & Gonzales
AFC SS: Sean Jones
AFC FS: Ed Reed
NFC WR: Donald Driver (instead of Darrell Jackson)
NFC ILB: Nick Barnett (instead of Chris Draft)
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11-29-2006, 05:39 AM
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Understood. It just seems to be very tough for rookies to make the pro bowl. Plus Parker's next 2 games are TB and Cleveland at home, he should rack up big numbers.
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Tampa Bay isnt that terrible against the run are they?
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11-29-2006, 05:40 AM
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Stats can be deceiving, but there is no way Ed Reed should be in the pro bowl over Kerry Rhodes...
Kerry Rhodes: 80 tackles, 4 sacks, 3 int, 6 PD, 3 FF, 1 FR
Ed Reed: 39 tackles, 0 sacks, 2 int, 2 PD, 1 FF, 0 FR
Textbook voting on a name, not how a player has played.
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11-29-2006, 05:40 AM
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This is pretty damn on point for me too. Only notable changes I'd make are:
AFC TE's: Winslow & Gonzales
AFC SS: Sean Jones
AFC FS: Ed Reed
NFC WR: Donald Driver (instead of Darrell Jackson)
NFC ILB: Nick Barnett (instead of Chris Draft)
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Steven Jackson should make the pro bowl also
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11-29-2006, 05:43 AM
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Stats can be deceiving, but there is no way Ed Reed should be in the pro bowl over Kerry Rhodes...
Kerry Rhodes: 80 tackles, 4 sacks, 3 int, 6 PD, 3 FF, 1 FR
Ed Reed: 39 tackles, 0 sacks, 2 int, 2 PD, 1 FF, 0 FR
Textbook voting on a name, not how a player has played.
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I was extremely impressed with Rhodes at the Bears/Jets game.
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11-29-2006, 05:45 AM
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Man Lee Evans is/was so close.. damn good for nothing McGahee & O-line that force JP to have games with under 100 yards passing  ... Yes it's true, i'm not blaming JP anymore because i see his upside.. It shames to admit how mediocre our 0-line is. But not to derail the ProBowl thread..
Aaron Schobel needs to be on some list..The dude is all-balls! to many here's surprise i don't make excuses for the Bilsl & their players often but Schobel is the bright spot on our D-line. It really hurts stats that the D is always exuasted because the offense is in CONSTANT 3 & outs.. I don't even know Schobels sack stats but i've a feeling their not top 5 in the AFC. Does run support count towards pro bowl recognition? I doubt it.. I don't mind him under the radar.. Phins & Jet fans will prop him, and i know Pats fans & Matt Light will too..<Works for me...
--Brian Moorman and Shane Lechler are both awesome. Moorman Buffalo, Lechler Oakland..lol But in Lechlers defense i do believe he would still own in teh wind & cold.. Moormans stats imo are easily #1 in the NFL right? He did pretty much win the Phins game for us.. Well besides Culpepper sucking..
-Jason Taylor is awesome. Man Jimmy Johnson is freakin amazing at drafting gems in mid-late rounds. JT is such a unique DE with his speed,strength & toughness,leadership..
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11-29-2006, 05:49 AM
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This is pretty damn on point for me too. Only notable changes I'd make are:
AFC TE's: Winslow & Gonzales
AFC SS: Sean Jones
AFC FS: Ed Reed
NFC WR: Donald Driver (instead of Darrell Jackson)
NFC ILB: Nick Barnett (instead of Chris Draft)
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I wouldn't really have a beef with any of those changes, the AFC tight ends in particular were really hard to decide on.
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11-29-2006, 05:55 AM
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Aaron Schobel needs to be on some list..
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I almost put him, but I never see the bills play (see the chiefs way more than I want), and Allen is a very impressive complete young DE (something rare anymore) that just seems to have a knack for making a big play at the right time.
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