The Yanks by the number$

[Frank Grimes]

A great read from Joe Posnanski.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...html?eref=sihp

In the last NINE years the Yankees have spent 432 MILLION dollars more than the second highest team.

That does not include lux tax. I am copying this from a Red Sox board.

Since 2003, and estimating this year, the Yankees have paid an additional $170 million in lux tax, the Sox $13.9 mill, the Tigers $1.3 million, and the Angels $900,000. In total 40 man roster salary with expenses and luxury tax for the 7 years from 2003 - 2009, the Yanks have spent $1,625,000,000, an average of $232 million per year. The Red Sox are the only team within $100 million of that incredible amount, spending about $138 million per, a mere $94 million less.

[NYGman4life]

Your point?

[hitman]

Yet another reason why MLB needs a salary cap.

I used to like baseball until the Yankees and all the other big boys started buying championships and spending 3/4 more than a players is worth and robbing the teams who can evaluate talent of their only good players.

MLB is a complete and utter joke.

[The Q]

Originally Posted by hitman

Yet another reason why MLB needs a salary cap.

I used to like baseball until the Yankees and all the other big boys started buying championships and spending 3/4 more than a players is worth and robbing the teams who can evaluate talent of their only good players.

MLB is a complete and utter joke.

Do we really need to go through the baseball economics lessons yet again?

[The Q]

And just for fun, the Yanks and Phillies were built in an almost identical fashion:

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives..._class_tal.php

[9ERS4EVA]

Originally Posted by hitman

Yet another reason why MLB needs a salary cap.

I used to like baseball until the Yankees and all the other big boys started buying championships and spending 3/4 more than a players is worth and robbing the teams who can evaluate talent of their only good players.

MLB is a complete and utter joke.

Stick to doing mocks about the 9ers hitman.

[Frank Grimes]

Originally Posted by NYGman4life

Your point?

Just that the Yanks have such an advantage over every other team.

Why do Yankee fans get so defensive about it? I know the Red Sox have a big financial advantage of most teams. And I am not just talking about you. I am talking about friends of mine who are Yankee fans.

The main reason the Yanks win is because of money.

[Frank Grimes]

Originally Posted by hitman

Yet another reason why MLB needs a salary cap.

I used to like baseball until the Yankees and all the other big boys started buying championships and spending 3/4 more than a players is worth and robbing the teams who can evaluate talent of their only good players.

MLB is a complete and utter joke.

Problem is that some teams don't spend. They pocket the lux tax money that mostly the Yanks pay in.

[9ERS4EVA]

Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

Just that the Yanks have such an advantage over every other team.

Why do Yankee fans get so defensive about it? I know the Red Sox have a big financial advantage of most teams. And I am not just talking about you. I am talking about friends of mine who are Yankee fans.

The main reason the Yanks win is because of money.

It's the main reason any team wins in any league. Cap or not the big market teams in football still have an advantage because of having cash on hand. Snyder could dominate the league if he would make better personnel decisions.

[griz]

Originally Posted by 9ERS4EVA

Snyder could dominate the league if he would make better personnel decisions.

Snyder is interesting because in some regards I liken him to George Steinbrenner. The Yanks best success have come when the old man is not making the decisions on where to spend the money, but instead is just authorizing the cheques to be written.

[9ERS4EVA]

Originally Posted by griz

Snyder is interesting because in some regards I liken him to George Steinbrenner. The Yanks best success have come when the old man is not making the decisions on where to spend the money, but instead is just authorizing the cheques to be written.

Indeed. The sooner Snyder realizes it the better. Of course it took getting banned from baseball for George to learn it.

Perhaps Snyder has a PI following Jason Campbell.

[Nastradamus]

Originally Posted by The Q

And just for fun, the Yanks and Phillies were built in an almost identical fashion:

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives..._class_tal.php

No, no they weren't. The payroll alone says that. The Phils didn't go out and get Cliff Lee by outbidding everyone by a huge margin. All of their core players are homegrown like Utley,Howard,Rollins,Victorino and Hamels.Werth was a reclamation project,Feliz was a cheap defensive specialist they picked up, same for Ruiz(or is he homegrown?) The Phils were starting Pedro and Joe Blanton after their top 2, the Yanks were coming with 14 million dollar Andy Petitte. Even if they have or will in the future give them large extensions, its not the same as what the Yankees do to continually add elite players. CC,ARod,Burnett,Teixera,Swisher(nobody else was takin' that deal on),Matsui,Damon and so on. Then the also pay their homegrown stars big money to stay when its time, like Petitte(sorta),Posada,Jeter,Mariano,Wang.

[Nastradamus]

Originally Posted by NYGman4life

Your point?

The point would be that the Yankees don't run a very efficient business and only win because the rules are tilted in their favor.

[Nastradamus]

Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

The only reason the Yanks win is because of money.

fixed it for you.

[Nastradamus]

Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

Problem is that some teams don't spend. They pocket the lux tax money that mostly the Yanks pay in.

not really. Sure, some teams could afford to add 10-20 mil to the payroll. The Marlins at times could probably add 30-40 mil if they wanted. The point is though, that they still can't in any way shape or form outbid the Yankees or Sox for any top players anyways and they still aren't even going to come close to 50% of the Yankees payroll by adding that amount, so the question becomes about whether or not it is worth it. Should the Twins spend 20 million this offseason to add Randy Wolf and Ben Sheets or something like that? They sure as hell can't have Lackey or Holliday or Bay etc etc. You might be able to wrap up some of your own guys(though most small market teams do that as much as possible anyways though), but if a guy knows he can hit the open market and double that, why would he sign up long term for cheap? So the idea that these teams should spend more is really just not all that feasible. Spending sounds good on paper, but spend on what???????

Teams that spend win, bottom line. You can do it other ways and there are always flukes thanks to the great system MLB has for the first half of guys careers with arbitration and being able to control them for a long time, especially when they aren't ready to come up from the minors. The Yanks are in the playoffs almost ever year, even though they haven't won. They are never terrible. The Red Sox have been there just about every year since they began to spend big. You have to spend the money right, but with most of these teams, they will just spend again the next year if the last year's signings fail. Only the Twins and Rockies had smallish payrolls this year in the playoffs.