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11-03-2009, 08:06 PM
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Reggie Bush was productive year 1 as well but over time has shown he is at best used as a utility player. If Harvin can consistently show his worth as a WR that would be impressive.
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11-03-2009, 08:19 PM
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He doesn't run great routes yet and I do have some questions about how he will react to regular jamming at the line. So far though, he looks very good. That doesn't mean there was anything wrong with noticing how raw he was coming in, having played at Florida in a different role than true WR. Its just fact. that said, he is an extraoridinary playmaker, is probably already a better WR than Devin Hester, for example and he was an excellent draft pick. He was especialy smart as a pick for Minnesota, a ball control, play it safe and grind it out type team. They are going to play a lot of close games and they need a guy who can break things open and give them an edge.
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11-03-2009, 08:20 PM
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Reggie Bush was productive year 1 as well but over time has shown he is at best used as a utility player. If Harvin can consistently show his worth as a WR that would be impressive.
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Sure wish Bush would get used as mostly a WR. Line up him and Colston outside with Moore in the slot I say. You can use him in a few gimmicky plays such as reverses and pitches and maybe in some wildcat even, but he isn't a RB by any means. |
11-03-2009, 08:29 PM
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He doesn't run great routes yet and I do have some questions about how he will react to regular jamming at the line. So far though, he looks very good. That doesn't mean there was anything wrong with noticing how raw he was coming in, having played at Florida in a different role than true WR. Its just fact. that said, he is an extraoridinary playmaker, is probably already a better WR than Devin Hester, for example and he was an excellent draft pick. He was especialy smart as a pick for Minnesota, a ball control, play it safe and grind it out type team. They are going to play a lot of close games and they need a guy who can break things open and give them an edge.
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No he isn't. People need to stop underrating Hesters WR abilities.
Harvin is good though. |
11-03-2009, 08:51 PM
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No he isn't. People need to stop underrating Hesters WR abilities.
Harvin is good though.
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I'm not underestimating him. Hester is starting to turn into a true WR. He hasn't been anything too special though. It wasn't meant as an insult to him, I just think Harvin is a better player as a WR. I'm not sure Hester didn't impact the game more as an elite returner. |
11-03-2009, 09:31 PM
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He doesn't run great routes yet .
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Says who? Favre, the coaches, hell even commentators have been raving about how much of a better route runner he is than they thought he would be at this stage. |
11-03-2009, 09:34 PM
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Love what Percy has brought to the Vikings so far, regardless of what you want to call him. Definitely the right pick for the Vikings since they were lacking a receiver who could catch mid-range passes for 3rd down conversions.
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11-03-2009, 09:49 PM
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I can maybe understand the Raiders passing on Crabtree since they are obsessed with speed, but how they picked DHB over Harvin is unimaginable.
Note to Al ... maybe it's time to stop putting so much stock in to 40 times.
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11-03-2009, 10:04 PM
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I'm not underestimating him. Hester is starting to turn into a true WR. He hasn't been anything too special though. It wasn't meant as an insult to him, I just think Harvin is a better player as a WR. I'm not sure Hester didn't impact the game more as an elite returner.
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Hes been a true WR since sometime late last year.
Of course he hasn't been special as a WR, but if you put him on the current Vikings he would be doing a heck of a lot better as a receiver then Harvin IMO. And I understand it wasn't meant as a insult, didn't really think it of it that way since I do like Harvin just underrating more then anything.
Hester used to be a 1 trick pony who could just beat people deep, and since he learned to become a true WR, he hasn't had the personnel surrounding him to use the 1 trick that is by far his best attribute, yet is still putting up decent numbers as the Bears #1 receiver. Imagine his numbers if Cutler had more time to let deep routes develop. Harvin just stepped into a better situation.
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11-03-2009, 10:27 PM
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Says who? Favre, the coaches, hell even commentators have been raving about how much of a better route runner he is than they thought he would be at this stage.
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People who assume the spread offense doesn't actually have it's wr run real routes.
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11-03-2009, 10:39 PM
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He doesn't run great routes yet
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Not disputing this, but how do you know this? |
11-03-2009, 11:27 PM
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He doesn't run great routes yet and I do have some questions about how he will react to regular jamming at the line. So far though, he looks very good. That doesn't mean there was anything wrong with noticing how raw he was coming in, having played at Florida in a different role than true WR. Its just fact. that said, he is an extraoridinary playmaker, is probably already a better WR than Devin Hester, for example and he was an excellent draft pick. He was especialy smart as a pick for Minnesota, a ball control, play it safe and grind it out type team. They are going to play a lot of close games and they need a guy who can break things open and give them an edge.
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I would have loved to seen Harvin as a Buc, but taking a shot with a QB hopefully was the right choice. |
11-04-2009, 03:18 AM
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He's no Ted Ginn Jr...thank goodness.
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11-04-2009, 08:33 AM
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People who assume the spread offense doesn't actually have it's wr run real routes.
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A spread can certainly have their WRs running real routes, check out a Mike Leach offense. Harvin though, rarely if ever ran NFL style routes as a WR. |
11-04-2009, 08:34 AM
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Not disputing this, but how do you know this?
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I live in Michigan, we have gotten 3 or 4 Vikings games so far. Both Packers games,the Pittsburgh game and Detroit. |
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