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11-04-2009, 08:35 AM
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Says who? Favre, the coaches, hell even commentators have been raving about how much of a better route runner he is than they thought he would be at this stage.
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He will have no problems in that department and he has progressed well. All i said is he isn't great at it yet.
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11-04-2009, 02:10 PM
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He has great hands (like he did at Florida) he runs good routes (like he did at florida when he ran routes) and he does the damn thang! and he is about as quick and shifty with great vision as anyone right now.
Not saying he is a Marvin Harrison route runner, but Viking players and coaches have raved about his route running and play so far..
He gets the job done, he's doing business on a team with one loss. Trust me Viking fans are extremly happy to have him and he is productive. Tough to argue him now.
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11-04-2009, 02:36 PM
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I don't recall that many people having issue with his physical talent. I think I even said he was a top 5-10 talent, just like Wells, but it's hard to ignore that many injuries. I think most/all of his were minor, but the fact he missed time because of them was concerning in itself. He's had some issues already in the NFL, but he's played through them, which is a good sign for Vikings fans.
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11-04-2009, 03:00 PM
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I think the most surprising thing to me about Harvin is the fact that he has been able to get all of his receptions as a "true WR". Meaning, he isn't getting just bubble screens and quick hitters. He's running every route that there is and he's doing it like a veteran. That's what has most impressed and surprised me.
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11-04-2009, 06:07 PM
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He has had minor injuries as well as a few unspecified illnesses but hasn't missed much time from it so far. It does make me a little wary but he's been a big playmaker so far.
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11-13-2009, 03:38 AM
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I think it's important to see Harvin run a fly route and get behind the defenders and catch a pass over his shoulder. He's got the speed. When I see him do this with relative ease, once or twice, I'll think of him a little differently. Until then he's a great weapon and has way better hands than I expected.
I think if he never does this, it's his short strides (not a trait of pro bowl WRs). He's not built exactly like Steve Smith.
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11-13-2009, 06:05 AM
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Most people, inlcuding myself, dropped him on draft boards due to his size, injury history and character issues. All justifiable concerns.
As a pure talent, he was a top 10 or 15 pick, but he had a ton of issues surrounding him and was a relatively risky draf pick.
I'm happy it worked out for Minny so far, although having Adrian Peterson, Brett Favre, Bernard Berrian and Sidney Rice on offense definitely helps. A lot.
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11-14-2009, 01:40 AM
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I wasn't sold and still and not sure. I liked him OK but coming out of a gimmicky offense, being hurt, barely having a position, and character issues, I wouldn't have drafted him round 1. I thought the same about Desean Jackson, but I think he was a much better talent coming out. Harvin has done well, but does he get better? I am still not so sure. I still view him as a quick, shifty guy who is dangerous with the ball in his hands and good in space. He is cool toy to have like Jackson, J. Norwood, R. Bush, D. Hester, Sproles, Ginn, D. Howard, Rocket Ismail, P. Warrick, etc. I just don't think 1st rounders should often be used on toys because they normally don't produce enough to warrant it (I know most of the guys I listed weren't 1st's). Minnesota is pretty stacked so it did make sense some. Jackson has exceeded what I thought he would be, but most don't. Harvin is off to a great start though, we'll see.
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11-16-2009, 12:33 AM
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I'm not sure character issues affected his draft slot one bit. His style of player is not as valued as say a true WR for instance. If he's a special teams guy and slot guy who do you compare him too? Devin Hester? Hester won't ever sign a huge contract because teams would rather have a true WR. So this all affects a players draft stock. Harvin went as high as he could and so far the off the field stuff has been fine. He's also tough as nails - I didn't know this.
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11-17-2009, 07:13 AM
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Sorta funny post, really. He's on pace for 56 catches for 738 yards. Good, not great production. Especially for a first-rounder. Been done plenty of times before and will be done many, many more times in the future. It's not like he's dominating as a WR.
What has made Harvin a great addition to the Vikes so far is his overall production (30.7ypr, 2 TDs).
I understand what you're trying to achieve, but he hasn't done enough yet to prove your point.
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Since a lot of WR's take 3 years to develope id say he is doing fine and ahead of the curve. I wish Buster Davis had 56 receptions in his 2 and a half years.
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11-17-2009, 11:09 PM
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Since a lot of WR's take 3 years to develope id say he is doing fine and ahead of the curve. I wish Buster Davis had 56 receptions in his 2 and a half years.
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Especially since Harvin is a #3 WR with Rice and Berrian. The fact is, he is a "WR" not this little dink and donk and deep threat only type WR that so many people said he was. He runs routes, he catches, he bounces off tacklers, her runs around them. Just because he doesn't have 1200 yards doesnt mean you cannot justify that he is a "WR" like the thread title says.
The thread title does not say
"PERCY HARVIN IS A PRO BOWL WR"
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11-18-2009, 02:15 AM
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Especially since Harvin is a #3 WR with Rice and Berrian. The fact is, he is a "WR" not this little dink and donk and deep threat only type WR that so many people said he was. He runs routes, he catches, he bounces off tacklers, her runs around them. Just because he doesn't have 1200 yards doesnt mean you cannot justify that he is a "WR" like the thread title says.
The thread title does not say
"PERCY HARVIN IS A PRO BOWL WR"
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When this thread was started I believe Harvin was the leading WR in terms of receptions for the Vikings. As of right now that is not the case as he is #2 in receptions with Berrian trailing him by one reception.
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