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Old 04-21-2008, 01:14 AM
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Does Mccain really want to play the association game?

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Cindy (Hensley) McCain’s father had been sent to jail when fifty-two of the employees of Quiq Marley were convicted of running afoul of federal liquor laws.
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When Hensley emerged from the slammer (some think for “taking the fall” for Marley), Marley rewarded him with a Budweiser distributorship which is now worth $200+ million, (even though Hensley was prohibited from working in the liquor industry for the remainder of his days). As an only child, Cindy (and, now, John) McCain will inherit this fortune.
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Thus, John McCain got his start in politics through the powerful political machine run by aforementioned Kemper Marley.
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Richard Scheffel, a lobbyist for Anheuser-Busch, boasted that Sen. McCain's father-in-law used him as a conduit to funnel money to politicians, saying that, "Cars, homes and bank accounts of 18 people, including eight state legislators, were confiscated in a civil racketeering lawsuit that paints a portrait of lawmakers eager to sell their influence for as little as $660 and as much as $750,000."
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Why did Sen. McCain help Mr. Charles Keating fight off federal regulators? The Arizona Republic reported on October 8, 1989, that "John McCain contends there was no conflict in his helping Keating battle federal regulators." And yet, the same article says, "Documents show that Sen. John McCain's wife, Cindy, and father-in-law, James W. Hensley are the largest investors in Fountain Square Shopping Center. Their partnership is managed by subsidiaries of American Continental Corp., run by Charles H. Keating, Jr."
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Some stories involving John McCain’s mob ties can be traced back to Eugene Hensley, the brother of McCain's father-in-law, who had done five years in a federal prison for skimming profits from a business venture. Thus, Sen. McCain has been seen in the company of Arizona Mafia bosses. At one time, the Hensley brothers [Mccain's father in law], boss, Kemper Marley had been directly connected with the Capone mob operating the Transamerica Wire Service, used by bookies throughout the country.
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"About 300 guests turned out Saturday night to celebrate the 90th birthday of Joseph 'Joe Bananas' Bonanno, retired boss of New York's Bonanno crime family. He retired to Tucson in 1968. . . John McCain, R-Ariz., and Gov. Fife Symington sent their regards by telegram."
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:24 AM
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Who was Kemper marley? Connection to Jim Hensley? [Mccain father in law]

"The Hensley fortune," writes Piper in AFP's Feb. 4 issue, "is a regional offshoot of the big-time bootlegging and rackets empire of the Bronfman dynasty." Jim Hensley, according to Piper, "got his start as a top henchman for Kemper Marley, who, for 40 years until his death in 1990 at the age of 84, was the undisputed behind-the-scenes political boss of Arizona. But Marley was much more than a machine politician. In fact, he was also the Lansky crime syndicate's top man in Arizona, the protégé of a Lansky lieutenant, Phoenix gambler Gus Greenbaum."

Greenbaum had been instrumental in the 1940s in running a national wire for bookmakers behind the front of the Transamerica Publishing [Capone ed.] and News Service. Marley inherited this operation when Greenbaum turned his attention to the development of Meyer Lansky's casinos in Las Vegas.

It was Greenbaum who took over management of Lansky's interests there following the murder of Benjamin ("Bugsy") Siegel for skimming Mob profits from the new Flamingo Casino -- a "hit" ordered by Lansky himself. Greenbaum and his wife had their throats cut in 1946, and an intense and bloody competition among mob elements ensued. But Marley survived while developing a virtual monopoly on liquor distribution in Arizona, thanks, evidently, to his embrace by the Bronfman family. In 1948, Piper notes, "52 of Marley's employees (including Jim Hensley) went to jail for federal liquor violations -- but not Marley.

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Old 04-21-2008, 01:49 AM
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Mafia

there i said it.

Anybody care Mccain's campaign's were financed by a father in law in the Mafia.

Keating and "dad" all involved with the head of the Arizona Mafia.
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:27 AM
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Very interesting article. I Wonder if it gets any real media play?

Wonder if Hillary or Obama will use it against him?
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:32 AM
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Very interesting article. I Wonder if it gets any real media play?

Wonder if Hillary or Obama will use it against him?
It's been on the web for years.

It gets zero airplay. I found a source at the Roanoke Times through google news, because i figured this had to be crackpot. Apparently professors who were radicals 40 years ago are important, while campaigns financed with mob money and connections with Bankers convicted in a 2.8 billion bailout are not.

Looks like Keating was "involved" with some people too (since Cindy Mccain's dad was "some people" I guess that goes without saying).
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:41 AM
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Who did Mccain's dad in law work for?

You know, the one that gave him the multi million dollar Bud distributorship after he did a prison stretch.

This was a reward for taking the fall for the big man himself, some say. His name was Kemper Marley

Don Bolles Murder Case

Don Bolles was an investigative reporter for the Arizona Republic. He knew just about everything their was to know about the mob in Phoenix. During his career as a reporter he crossed many corrupt officials and gangsters. The one that would end his life was Kemper Marley (Allegedly). Don Bolles reporting exposed Kemper Marley's connection with the mob, forcing him to resign as a member of the State Board Racing Commission. As a result of this, Marley had Bolles killed. Here is an excerpt from C.D. Stelzer's Urban Guerilla Journal which was very thorough about the entire affair. You can look at the whole article on Don Bolles through his website below.

"Beginning in 1946, Licavoli, the Arizona mob boss, operated an illegal gambling wire service with Kemper Marley Sr., the wealthiest liquor distributor in the state. Later, Marley's United Liquor Co. supplied Emprise dog tracks with 10 percent of their alcoholic beverages. During the 1974 Arizona gubernatorial race, Marley was the biggest contributor to Gov. Raul Castro's campaign. After the election, the Castro administration appointed Marley to the state racing commission, but he was forced to resign because of adverse publicity from stories written by Bolles. The Phoenix police theorized that Marley wanting revenge enlisted the help of local contractor Max Dunlap. Dunlap then allegedly hired Adamson to carry out the bombing. Adamson claimed that plumber James Robison assisted him."
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:44 AM
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It's been on the web for years.

It gets zero airplay.
That answers my first question.

Sorta answers my second question to it seems. If it's been out there for years I have to admit I'm somewhat shocked that it hasn't been shouted from rooftops before.

No surprise about the media really. Considering the lies, non-truths and stories that flat-out get no airplay.

But shame on Clinton or Obama when it becomes a 2 person race and the Rep mudslingin starts but they don't make this known.
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:57 AM
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That answers my first question.

Sorta answers my second question to it seems. If it's been out there for years I have to admit I'm somewhat shocked that it hasn't been shouted from rooftops before.

No surprise about the media really. Considering the lies, non-truths and stories that flat-out get no airplay.

But shame on Clinton or Obama when it becomes a 2 person race and the Rep mudslingin starts but they don't make this known.
Seems like someone will though. Just cracked me up that Mccain's flogging that tired weatherman story right now.
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I started a topic on this about 3-5 months ago, but was dismissed. I think I found different sources about the Keating affair, but was dismissed.

Folks believe what they want to believe - or what Fox News tells them.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:16 AM
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I started a topic on this about 3-5 months ago, but was dismissed. I think I found different sources about the Keating affair, but was dismissed.

Folks believe what they want to believe - or what Fox News tells them.
Pretty concise here. Keating, Dad and McCain wrapped in a bow.

http://samsedershow.com/node/2470

One thing that Marley and Hensley didn't have-- governmental authority themselves. They had to depend on their friends in government to help them out. But then Hensley got a gift-- his daughter married the former Navy pilot and decorated veteran of the Vietnam conflict, John McCain. Hensley knew right away what to do.....

Then in 1982, McCain ran for Congress. That takes some quick money, and McCain had access to it-- thanks to his father in law (whose employees at his liquor distributorship were 'persuaded' to donate thousands of dollars to McCain), and one of Hensley's friends, Charles Keating of the Lincoln S&L (I won't get into the Lincoln S&L scandal here because it is pretty well known by now that McCain was one of the 'Keating Five.') To seal the deal, Jim Hensley and Cindy Hensley McCain invested $359,100 in one of Keating's projects. In fact, when McCain first ran for the Senate, in 1986, even Kemper Marley, through his son Kemper Jr. (who was now running United Liquor-- Marley himself had become politically radioactive) donated money to him.
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I started a topic on this about 3-5 months ago, but was dismissed. I think I found different sources about the Keating affair, but was dismissed.

Folks believe what they want to believe - or what Fox News tells them.


Just watch how the media will coddle him. The really serious problem with this country that gets little to no play is media consolidation, and corrupting that institution seriously imperils free society, a fact that's lost on those dismissing the other right wing scandal of the day. America needs strict rules reregulating media and giving local ownership it's due, we can't allow a system wherein only a few streams of information are readily available to the people. They're becoming really brazen about this and imo the coming election is really going to be a showcase for just how manipulative the MSM is. They'll protect McCain at all opportunities, and he'll have to really screw up for them to even try to call him on it.
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...has connections to Obama that make Ray's allegations about McCain look like a federal case in comparison. What's your point?
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Here's an entire article about it.

The whole article is pretty damining except for this line.

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The connection between Mr. Auchi and Sen. Obama is tenuous.
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The connection between Mr. Auchi and Sen. Obama is tenuous. But given Mr. Auchi's shady past, his history of bribing politicians, it's not unreasonable to ask if Mr. Auchi, through Mr. Rezko, was trying to buy influence with a rising political star. And it's curious that outside of the Chicago Sun Times and the Chicago Tribune, both of which have written extensively on the Rezko-Obama relationship, only a British newspaper is asking.
LOL!! It's not unreasonable to ask? WTF does that mean?

Not quite the same as being married to his daughter now is it?

Or taking nine trips, often to luxury resorts, on the tab of convicted fraud Keating, who cost the taxpayers 2.8 billion is it?
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I'd rather the Democrats save a story like this for the general election.
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