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Ha, lol... Tosh just loves cashmere. :tiny:

Daniel Tosh says hi.

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I don't think the 3/5's compromise was either pro-slavery or anti-slavery. I'd say that question itself is probably a bad way of thinking about it.

The 3/5's compromise was about getting a tough,...

I, for one, think this is just the latest example of the radical, left-wing educational establishment forcing their pro-gay agenda on the good, salt-of-the-earth people of middle America who happen...

I think he's gay for you, dude.

Well, when you put it like this... makes me wonder what we've been arguing about for pages on end?

And when "societies" differ... how do we determine who is "good" or "bad", "right" or "wrong",...

The quote wasn't in the political report.

It was from a college paper the guy wrote. No context is provided from there.

From the news article:

So... you agree that there are moral laws? Are these independent of what a particular "society" has to say?

I guess I should just ask: what is the difference between a "non-absolute" moral law and...

You jump from talking about "some individuals" in your first sentence.. to talking about all of "mankind" in your second sentence.

It's a skewed, bad comparsion.

Bottom line: calculus is...

I disagree.

There is a big difference between:

1.) math becomes impossible to understand the higher up you go

and

2.) math becomes increasingly harder to understand the higher up you go

Platonic heaven? The mind of God? Within the very fabric of "goodness" and "Justice"? Placed within our minds by our creator, waiting to be tapped?

All 4?

Asked and answered... several times...

Say rather: it would be arbitrary if we really lived in a "moral world" such as the one theorized by APF, PatsFan2003, yourself and others...

If what FG, tyke, walshie, myself and others is true,...

One example that comes immediately to mind is... abortion.

No countsies?

Certainly seems as if you are appealing to an outside, overriding standard in order to critique past society... and as the reason for change within past society.

Right?

I disagree...

I didn't just make the claim in question. I have given argument to support the claim: arguing that moral change over time is impossible to adequately explain without the existence of...

How do you know which "subgroup" to trust? How do you tell which "specialist" is either 'good' or 'bad', 'right' or 'wrong', 'better' or 'worse'?

Be specific in explaining what are appealing...

Please explain... ?

Yep.

I see the point you are making, and there is a little something to it. For my part: I can agree that our time and place certainly play a role in shaping our prejudices and beliefs.

My main...

You give Hitler far too much credit. Antisemitism didn't begin with Hitler... there were (and are) plenty of folks who needed little to no "convincing" in this regard.

Who's "we". Are you claiming...

Right, I do. An absolute must exist as the standard on which we can differentiate claims of "good" vs. "bad", "better" vs. "worse".

Without some fixed standard... on what basis are you...

The youth born in Nazi Germany had all the benefits of the "achievements of the past", no?

We're talking morality here.

No, your shortcoming is that you haven't provided any type of solid...

Again, there is a big difference between:

1.) God is unknowable

and

2.) God is unknowable in His entirety... but we can discover and follow His will to some extent, knowing a firm foundation...

I should hope not. I'd say you have a lot of work to do in tightening up your position here. More on that below...

It's a fair point... but a lot of questions still remain:

Most sober people...

So if I root for "Team Hitler" instead of "Team Freedom"... that's just like rooting for Green Bay over Minnesota?

And each child is certainly not given an equal amount of attention, emotional nourishment, education, etc.

I never say the society that one is born into plays no part in their prejudices and...