http://forums.kffl.com/ Discuss the NFL Draft, upcoming rookies or the NCAA here. en Sun, 19 May 2013 17:38:48 GMT vBulletin 60 http://forums.kffl.com/images/misc/rss.png http://forums.kffl.com/ http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304758-2014-Draft-Guys-to-watch?goto=newpost Sat, 04 May 2013 18:01:39 GMT Let's not talk about the household names.

I'll kick it off with the tight ends. We may have a unique situation here with three potential first rounders for 2014, at least on my list.

Colt Lyerla, Oregon - This junior could easily be a high 1st round guy. A top recruit with great athleticism, he had 25 receptions and 392 yards (15.2 avg) for Oregon lat season. He scored 6 touchdowns. I anticipate a big year for him. He needs to bulk up a bit (6'5" 240lb), but should be the best TE prospect in years. He also lined up at RB and ran the ball 13 times for 77 yards.

CJ Fiedorowicz, Iowa - Some think this senior might be the next Gronk, and definitely looks the part. He can block, run routes, and has good athleticism and hands. Had 45 receptions last season. 6'7 265lb.

Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington - A great athlete for the position. He also plays for the hoops team. I'm not sure how his blocking is. The 6'6" 266lb incoming junior already has the school receiving records for a TE. He had 69 receptions last season for 850 yards and 7 TDs as a sophomore and very good production as a freshman. (Or is it "first-year student" in Washington now?) He was arrested for DUI in March. Hopefully, it's behind him. ]]> NFL Draft BigFin http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304758-2014-Draft-Guys-to-watch http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304686-Who-got-a-steal?goto=newpost Wed, 01 May 2013 23:28:14 GMT Every year we get this thread and I was waiting this year, but a week later it's not here. What gives? Who do you think got a steal? ]]> NFL Draft CrazyCoughlin http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304686-Who-got-a-steal http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304546-QBs-are-falling-like-cement-Brinnks?goto=newpost Sat, 27 Apr 2013 02:36:05 GMT Unbelievable with how guys like Barkley and Nassib who both had chances to be 1st Rd picks are still on the board going into day 3. Even guys like Bray, Wilson, Dysert, Jones, & Scott that were projected in the 3rd through 5th are going to fall even further. Some team are going to get good value on a QB in the 6th and even 7th Rds the way it looks. ]]> NFL Draft Lofaw http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304546-QBs-are-falling-like-cement-Brinnks http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304534-**-Day-Two-discussion-thread-**?goto=newpost Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:13:18 GMT Please be more exciting than last night. Please be more exciting than last night. ]]> NFL Draft Wyndham http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304534-**-Day-Two-discussion-thread-** http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304490-*Official*-Round-One-discussion-thread?goto=newpost Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:35:56 GMT I'll open this 30 mins prior to kickoff. Don't clog it up with crap. :policeman: ]]> NFL Draft Wyndham http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304490-*Official*-Round-One-discussion-thread http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304483-Pick-32-Who-SHOULD-the-Ravens-take?goto=newpost Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:17:49 GMT 1. Chiefs - Joeckel 2. Jags - Floyd 3. Raiders - Geno 4. Eagles - Fisher 5. Lions - Milliner 6. Browns - Ansah 7. Cards - Johnson 8. Bills - Jordan 9. Jets - Mingo 10. Titans - Lotulei 1. Chiefs - Joeckel
2. Jags - Floyd
3. Raiders - Geno
4. Eagles - Fisher
5. Lions - Milliner
6. Browns - Ansah
7. Cards - Johnson
8. Bills - Jordan
9. Jets - Mingo
10. Titans - Lotulei
11. Chargers - Warmack
12. Dolphins - Rhodes
13. Bucs - Trufant
14. Panthers - Richardson
15. Saints - Jarvis Jones
16. Rams - Austin
17. Steelers - Vaccaro
18. Cowboys - Cooper
19. Giants - Fluker
20. Bears - Alec Ogletree
21. Bengals - Patterson
22. Rams - Matt Elam
23. Vikings - Te'o
24. Colts - DJ Hayden
25. Vikings - Sly Williams
26. Packers - Datone Jones
27. Texans - Hopkins
28. Broncos - Carradine
29. Patriots - Werner
30. Falcons - Eifert
31. Niners - Cyprien
32. Ravens - ]]> NFL Draft Nastradamus http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304483-Pick-32-Who-SHOULD-the-Ravens-take http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304473-Pick-31-Who-SHOULD-the-Niners-pick?goto=newpost Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:03:31 GMT 1. Chiefs - Joeckel 2. Jags - Floyd 3. Raiders - Geno 4. Eagles - Fisher 5. Lions - Milliner 6. Browns - Ansah 7. Cards - Johnson 8. Bills - Jordan 9. Jets - Mingo 10. Titans - Lotulei 1. Chiefs - Joeckel
2. Jags - Floyd
3. Raiders - Geno
4. Eagles - Fisher
5. Lions - Milliner
6. Browns - Ansah
7. Cards - Johnson
8. Bills - Jordan
9. Jets - Mingo
10. Titans - Lotulei
11. Chargers - Warmack
12. Dolphins - Rhodes
13. Bucs - Trufant
14. Panthers - Richardson
15. Saints - Jarvis Jones
16. Rams - Austin
17. Steelers - Vaccaro
18. Cowboys - Cooper
19. Giants - Fluker
20. Bears - Alec Ogletree
21. Bengals - Patterson
22. Rams - Matt Elam
23. Vikings - Te'o
24. Colts - DJ Hayden
25. Vikings - Sly Williams
26. Packers - Datone Jones
27. Texans - Hopkins
28. Broncos - Carradine
29. Patriots - Werner
30. Falcons - Eifert
31. Niners -



SOrry, called it for Eifert. Its the last day and he had a one vote edge. Might as well move on. ]]> NFL Draft Nastradamus http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304473-Pick-31-Who-SHOULD-the-Niners-pick http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304460-With-the-First-Pick-of-the-NFL-Draft-Chiefs-select?goto=newpost Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:43:50 GMT According to Fox Sports , they are saying contracts just began with Eric Fisher.

Not sure how I feel about this at all. Sort of feel a bit dazed & sick to the stomach like I did with Poe last year.

Small school but better athlete kind of guy. I wanted Joeckel all offseason. ]]> NFL Draft dasher http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304460-With-the-First-Pick-of-the-NFL-Draft-Chiefs-select http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304442-Nas-final-mock?goto=newpost Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:01:08 GMT 1. KC - Luke Joeckel - You never regret taking a 10 year starter at a premium position

2. Jax - Dion Jordan - Bradley wants to build on speed and defense. Geno wouldn't shock me either though. Don't see an LT here.

3. Oakland(trade to Miami for 12,42 and 77) - Eric Fisher - The perfect match. Miami has extra picks and needs an LT, Oakland has no obvious choice here and needs more picks.

4. Philly - Star Lotulei - They seroiusly need some beef up front and Star is a true difference maker.

5. Detroit - Lane Johnson - GOtta protect the franchise, I think they pull the trigger. There is depth at pass rushing DE in this draft and they don't value CB here.

6. Cleveland - Geno Smith - Too good of value to pass. They aren't sold on Weeden and I like Chud working with Smith.

7. Arizona - Chance Warmack - Best Ol available. They are even worse at OG than OT anyways.

8. Buffalo - Ryan Nassib - Probably a reach, but if he's their answer at QB, this is the last time we'll hear about it

9. NY Jets - Dee Milliner - About as ideal a Revis replacement as you could possibly find.

10. Tennessee - DJ Fluker - He'll start out at RG and probably replace Stewart at RT next year. They can't pay Stewart and Roos, plus Levitre.

11. San Diego(SD trades 11 and their 4th for 22 and 46) - Tavon Austin - The Rams want him badly and I think moving ahead of the Jets is a smart move to make sure you get him.

12. Oakland(via Miami) - Shariff Floyd - The board falls the right way and they get their guy at 12 who they might have taken at 3.

13. NY Jets(Via TB) - Ezekial Ansah - While he's talented, his rawness makes him slide a bit. Rex is the perfect coach to get the most out of him IMO.

14. Carolina - Sheldon Richardson - They badly need an impact player at DT and many like Richardson as high as the top 5 or 10.

15. New Orleans - Barkevious Mingo - This pick will most likely be the best pass rusher available. I like MIngo over the other available options here.

16. St.Louis - Alec Ogletree - I hear they really like him and they need some speed at LB. We know Fisher will take bad character guys too.

17. Pittsburgh - Jarvis Jones - I don't know if he'll work out, but Pittsburgh is the best place for him. They have a need as well.

18. Dallas - Jonathan Cooper - This should be a run it up to the podium pick. That interior OL has been awful for too long. Now cut Free for WInston.

19. NY Giants - DJ Hayden - A fast rising Cb with 4.3 speed and top notch ball skills, I think the Giants will be all over him if he's here.

20. Chicago - Tyler Eifert - They need offensive weapons. They did sign Bennett, but 2 TEs is all the rage and Eifert is tremendous value here.

21. Cincinatti - Kenny Vaccaro - Another run it up to the podium pick. They are big fans of his and a top S would really complete that defense, which is becoming special.

22. San Diego(via St.Louis) - Menelik Watson - They missed the first group of LTs, so they are happy to trade back, get another 2nd rounder and snag the next best LT.

23. Minnesota - Cordarelle Patterson - They won't have to trade up for him anymore, but I don't think they pass on 23. He has the talent to replace Percy if his head's on straight.

24. Indy - Tank Carradine - They need another pass rusher, Walden doesn't offer a ton there. Carradine is fast rising after his pro day.

25. Minnesota - Sylvester Williams - A disruptive DT like Williams is just what they need. He'll complement and then replace K.Williams.

26. GB - Datone Jones - Getting more pass rush out of their DL is one of their 2 biggest needs. I love Jones here.

27. Houston - Justin Hunter - They need a #2 next to Andre badly. Hunter has potential to be the #1 long term too if he works at it.

28. Denver (traded to Philly for 35,101 and 210) - EJ Manuel - I think they are waiting ready to pounce if he falls to this range. Great fit for Kelly and his offense. He can sit a year behind Vick. FOles then gets dealt.

29. New England - Deandre Hopkins - They need a WR and he fits their style well with his routes, hands and toughness.

30. Atlanta - Xavier Rhodes - THis pick almost has to be a corner and Rhodes is a great fit as he can matchup with guys like VJax,Colston and some of the other bigger WRs they'll face in the NFC.

31. San Francisco - Margus Hunt - They can afford to wait a little bit on his talent as he develops. Could be their J.SMith replacement eventually

32. Baltimore - Arthur Brown - They have a big hole at ILB now and ideally they'd fill it with someone with some speed and coverage ability. Brown does it all.

33. Jacksonville - Matt Barkley - I think they have to take a QB at some point in this draft and Barkley is nice value here.

34. San Francisco(via KC) - Matt Elam - They haven't replaced GOldson yet and Elam fits their hard hitting style.

35. Denver(via Philly) - Damontre Moore - They need a pass rusher to replace Dumervil and hopefully his boy Miller can help keep him on the right track off the field.

36. Detroit - Bjoern Werner - I've seen him mocked to Detroit in round 1, so they'd pounce on him here. THey need DEs who can rush the passer but also play the run a bit. They might see some KVB in him too.

37. Cincinatti(via Oakland) - Gio Bernard - I think he fits their need better than a guy like Lacy. He's been connected to Cincy a lot.

38. Arizona - Alex Okafor - Other than OL, pass rusher is their biggest hole. I really like Okafor. He'll play opposite another former Longhorn.

39. New York Jets - Zach Ertz - Other than Revis, Keller was their biggest loss this year. Ertz will be a nice security blanket for whoever plays QB for them. He can block too.

40. Tennessee - Desmond Trufant - They need another starting CB, as Verner is ideally a nickel IMO. Trufant has a 1st round grade from many, myself included.

41. Buffalo - Keenan Allen - On tape alone, he could be the highest rated WR in this class. Buffalo is happy to gamble on him here, as he'll fit nicely with NAssib's skillset.

42. Oakland(via Miami) - Jamar Taylor - Oakland needs talent at corner desperately

43. Tampa Bay(trades to Green Bay for 55,122 and 159) - Justin Pugh - GB loves versatile OLmen and Pugh is a 1st round caliber talent who can play any spot on the OL. I think they try him at LT first, but maybe C if not.

44. Carolina - DJ Swearinger - They tag the local kid to fill their huge hole at S. I think Swearinger is very underrated. He'll start for a long time in this league and make pro bowls.

45. San Diego - David Amerson - They lost both starting CBs this offseason and Amerson is arguably the most talented DB in the class on paper. His size,speed and ball skills are worth a dice roll here.

46. San Diego - Cornelius Washington - Another high end talent who didn't dominate in college. They hope that he was playing out of position and he can become a dominant pass rusher for them opposite Ingram.

47. Dallas - Eric Reid - The first 2 picks almsot have to be G and S unless they fall in love with a DT prospect. Reid is easily the best S here.

48. Pittsburgh - Quinton Patton - They need a WR with a little size and ability to play outside to complement their current small but quick WR corps.

49. New York Giants - Kyle Long - The OL needs replenishing and Long can help just about anywhere. I think he's eventually a RT for them.

50. Chicago - Barrett Jones - They want to upgrade Garza and move him back to G or the bench. Jones' playing style and talent will be welcome in Chicago.

51. Washinton - Jonathan Cyprien - I imagine they are basically just sitting here and praying a top 5 S falls to them. Cyprien is a very nice get here, filling their biggest hole.

52. Minnesota - Manti Te'o - I'm sure they never thought he'd still be here, but if he is they will take him in a heartbeat

53. Cincinatti - Jonathan Hankins - They lost Pat Sims and they need another run stuffer next to Atkins and co.

54. Miami - Eddy Lacy - I'm not sold on D.Thomas, Lacy is a very nice value here and he complements Lamar Miller nicely.

55. Tampa Bay(via GB) - STedman Bailey - A smaller, speedier WR is the last piece that offense needs.

56. Seattle - Brandon Williams - They need some size and talent on that DL, as they are aging and losing guys there. THey seem like just the team to gamble on Williams' talent.

57. Houston - Landry Jones - I think they will select a QB early and I'm very high on JOnes. YOu can only go on with Schaub for so much longer. Plus the QB value in this class is so good

58. Denver - Jonathan Franklin - A lot of teams have him as their #1 back. I think he fits into a Peyton Manning lead offense better than a guy like Bell, or Lacy earlier.

59. New England - Jonathan Banks - I think they want one more CB. They tend to like them with some size and I hear they have spent a lot of time on Banks.

60. Atlanta - Kawann Short - They need more pass rush from their DT spot, Short is a steal here.

61. San Francisco - Vance Mcdonald - An extremely athletic TE who is getting more and more attention. He's a nice #2 TE in their offense.

62. Baltimore - Kevin Minter - Yah, they went Brown in round 1, but one Mcclain got arrested, the other is coming off injury and they lost 2 starting ILBs this offseason. Why not load up, they don't have many other holes anyways. ]]> NFL Draft Nastradamus http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304442-Nas-final-mock http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304440-Pick-30-Who-SHOULD-the-Falcons-pick?goto=newpost Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:41:29 GMT 1. Chiefs - Joeckel 2. Jags - Floyd 3. Raiders - Geno 4. Eagles - Fisher 5. Lions - Milliner 6. Browns - Ansah 7. Cards - Johnson 8. Bills - Jordan 9. Jets - Mingo 10. Titans - Lotulei 1. Chiefs - Joeckel
2. Jags - Floyd
3. Raiders - Geno
4. Eagles - Fisher
5. Lions - Milliner
6. Browns - Ansah
7. Cards - Johnson
8. Bills - Jordan
9. Jets - Mingo
10. Titans - Lotulei
11. Chargers - Warmack
12. Dolphins - Rhodes
13. Bucs - Trufant
14. Panthers - Richardson
15. Saints - Jarvis Jones
16. Rams - Austin
17. Steelers - Vaccaro
18. Cowboys - Cooper
19. Giants - Fluker
20. Bears - Alec Ogletree
21. Bengals - Patterson
22. Rams - Matt Elam
23. Vikings - Te'o
24. Colts - DJ Hayden
25. Vikings - Sly Williams
26. Packers - Datone Jones
27. Texans - Deandre Hopkins
28. Broncos -Tank Carradine
29. Patriots - Bjoern Werner
30. Falcons - ]]> NFL Draft Nastradamus http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304440-Pick-30-Who-SHOULD-the-Falcons-pick http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304429-Poll-Where-is-Denard-Robinson-Drafted?goto=newpost Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:27:41 GMT Robinson is probably one of the highest visibility guys in the draft if you look at the media coverage he got in college. (Honey Badger is in that discussion too) Robinson is switching to WR and has indicated he'll be a return man as well, and there's a huge variance in his draft ratings. There are "insiders" saying he may go as early as the 2nd round to some team in love with his versatility, and there are mocks with him going in the 6th or 7th. So simple question, where does he go? Not where do you think he should go, but what round is he drafted in. Bonus points for calling the top/middle/bottom of the right round in your response. ]]> NFL Draft Dave http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304429-Poll-Where-is-Denard-Robinson-Drafted http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304423-Pick-29-Who-SHOULD-the-Patriots-pick?goto=newpost Wed, 24 Apr 2013 03:27:21 GMT Had to give it to Tank with the one vote edge. Pick #28 - Who SHOULD the Broncos pick? 1. Chiefs - Joeckel 2. Jags - Floyd 3. Raiders - Geno 4. Eagles - Fisher 5. Lions - Milliner 6. Browns - Ansah 7. Cards - Johnson Had to give it to Tank with the one vote edge.

Pick #28 - Who SHOULD the Broncos pick?
1. Chiefs - Joeckel
2. Jags - Floyd
3. Raiders - Geno
4. Eagles - Fisher
5. Lions - Milliner
6. Browns - Ansah
7. Cards - Johnson
8. Bills - Jordan
9. Jets - Mingo
10. Titans - Lotulei
11. Chargers - Warmack
12. Dolphins - Rhodes
13. Bucs - Trufant
14. Panthers - Richardson
15. Saints - Jarvis Jones
16. Rams - Austin
17. Steelers - Vaccaro
18. Cowboys - Cooper
19. Giants - Fluker
20. Bears - Alec Ogletree
21. Bengals - Patterson
22. Rams - Matt Elam
23. Vikings - Te'o
24. Colts - DJ Hayden
25. Vikings - Sly Williams
26. Packers - Datone Jones
27. Texans - Deandre Hopkins
28. Broncos -Tank Carradine
29. Patriots - ]]> NFL Draft Nastradamus http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304423-Pick-29-Who-SHOULD-the-Patriots-pick http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304415-Pick-28-Who-SHOULD-the-Broncos-pick?goto=newpost Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:52:18 GMT 1. Chiefs - Joeckel 2. Jags - Floyd 3. Raiders - Geno 4. Eagles - Fisher 5. Lions - Milliner 6. Browns - Ansah 7. Cards - Johnson 8. Bills - Jordan 9. Jets - Mingo 10. Titans - Lotulei 1. Chiefs - Joeckel
2. Jags - Floyd
3. Raiders - Geno
4. Eagles - Fisher
5. Lions - Milliner
6. Browns - Ansah
7. Cards - Johnson
8. Bills - Jordan
9. Jets - Mingo
10. Titans - Lotulei
11. Chargers - Warmack
12. Dolphins - Rhodes
13. Bucs - Trufant
14. Panthers - Richardson
15. Saints - Jarvis Jones
16. Rams - Austin
17. Steelers - Vaccaro
18. Cowboys - Cooper
19. Giants - Fluker
20. Bears - Alec Ogletree
21. Bengals - Patterson
22. Rams - Matt Elam
23. Vikings - Te'o
24. Colts - DJ Hayden
25. Vikings - Sly Williams
26. Packers - Datone Jones
27. Texans - Deandre Hopkins
28. Broncos - ]]> NFL Draft Nastradamus http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304415-Pick-28-Who-SHOULD-the-Broncos-pick http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304404-Pick-27-Who-SHOULD-the-Texans-pick?goto=newpost Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:02:30 GMT 1. Chiefs - Joeckel 2. Jags - Floyd 3. Raiders - Geno 4. Eagles - Fisher 5. Lions - Milliner 6. Browns - Ansah 7. Cards - Johnson 8. Bills - Jordan 9. Jets - Mingo 10. Titans - Lotulei 1. Chiefs - Joeckel
2. Jags - Floyd
3. Raiders - Geno
4. Eagles - Fisher
5. Lions - Milliner
6. Browns - Ansah
7. Cards - Johnson
8. Bills - Jordan
9. Jets - Mingo
10. Titans - Lotulei
11. Chargers - Warmack
12. Dolphins - Rhodes
13. Bucs - Trufant
14. Panthers - Richardson
15. Saints - Jarvis Jones
16. Rams - Austin
17. Steelers - Vaccaro
18. Cowboys - Cooper
19. Giants - Fluker
20. Bears - Alec Ogletree
21. Bengals - Patterson
22. Rams - Matt Elam
23. Vikings - Te'o
24. Colts - DJ Hayden
25. Vikings - Sly Williams
26. Packers - Datone Jones
27. Texans - ]]> NFL Draft Nastradamus http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304404-Pick-27-Who-SHOULD-the-Texans-pick http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304403-Pick-27-Who-SHOULD-the-Texans-pick?goto=newpost Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:00:29 GMT 1. Chiefs - Joeckel 2. Jags - Floyd 3. Raiders - Geno 4. Eagles - Fisher 5. Lions - Milliner 6. Browns - Ansah 7. Cards - Johnson 8. Bills - Jordan 9. Jets - Mingo 10. Titans - Lotulei 1. Chiefs - Joeckel
2. Jags - Floyd
3. Raiders - Geno
4. Eagles - Fisher
5. Lions - Milliner
6. Browns - Ansah
7. Cards - Johnson
8. Bills - Jordan
9. Jets - Mingo
10. Titans - Lotulei
11. Chargers - Warmack
12. Dolphins - Rhodes
13. Bucs - Trufant
14. Panthers - Richardson
15. Saints - Jarvis Jones
16. Rams - Austin
17. Steelers - Vaccaro
18. Cowboys - Cooper
19. Giants - Fluker
20. Bears - Alec Ogletree
21. Bengals - Patterson
22. Rams - Matt Elam
23. Vikings - Te'o
24. Colts - DJ Hayden
25. Vikings - Sly Williams
26. Packers - Datone Jones
27. Texans - ]]> NFL Draft Nastradamus http://forums.kffl.com/threads/304403-Pick-27-Who-SHOULD-the-Texans-pick